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Fairness Enforcement => Cheater Reports and Bans => Topic started by: Spiders on June 15, 2008, 10:05:23 PM
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Hello folks.. it's your friendly (apparently speed hacking) Spidey.. :)
http://www.mediafire.com/?dmounbwwzhb (http://www.mediafire.com/?dmounbwwzhb)
(Sorry for using mediafire.. but the forums didn't allow me to attach the demo.)
This demo was taken today around 8:00pm Mountain Time.. GT Classic Match 2. Sorry that it's kind of a long demo; you will be needing to do a lot of fast forwarding. Anyways the times of interest are:
17:11
7:47 - 7:35
7:08 - 7:00
6:44 - 6:42
5:49 - 5:44
5:19 - 5:17
4:38 - 4:35
Enjoy my nubbishness.
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Other demos are at hand.
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im laughing so hard at Shockwave talking excrement! :)
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Alright, spiders grow up. This is complete nonsense. First of all, the map you are invicting me about is airtime1. In this map , the recon is fairly easy, especially having ventrilo. Having another 2 teamates on your side reconning the absolute area of theo the other team is easy to follow. You need to learn the rules of the game. Where to shoot, the most known places people go, and to put your self in the other persons shoes. ex. "under mid left side." " high check front" "bd ent comin in now!" . basic recon. Anyway, I have no idea wat this is about, dont knwo wat wall hacks are, neither do I any hacks. Practise makes perfect, Gl spiders.
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Where to shoot, the most known places people go
That is true, but when one of my players went to the mid wall and crouched in a corner you two put lines at his head. Yeah, yeah you might of saw him go there, but when I had him move across the bottom of the mid wall you followed right over his head. "On checkers you can see him" Sure, but no one on your team was on checkers so therefore thats not possible to follow.
Another time I asked spiders to go in our "Box" or "High BD". Next thing you know he has 2 lines going at him and he didn't even cross into visibility.
Once again, I asked spiders to camp in our base. He chooses in the pole next to ramp to high (as soon as the round starts). Hoagy dies... then spiders starts getting lined at but you can't even see him. This is the first time someone has camped there the whole match, so it isn't like you're going to check there every round. Next thing you know, DEAD.
Out of all these moments you all both were alive. No Recon
Practise makes perfect, Gl spiders.
Thats not even true.
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They matched us there too and i saw the same. makes me think that the map has something to do with w/e they are doing if they are suddenly matching evryone there
If i knew how to post demos i would but i think kazee will be doing that shortly
I saw toon looking at walls and start shooting right as the person would pass a wall
blatantly obvious to me.
Edit: i dont know this for sure but if i cant see the other player (which i couldnt even with my sniper script at fov 60) then they cant see me back but suddenly i would have a stream of balls over my head i wish i could get my demos...
Edit: Here is my demo i dont know if its good or not but here it is
http://www.mediafire.com/?ezcjg8myb4d
times: 13:46
13:18 weak but toon just looks at me while going around wall
13:00 i cant see him at all but he lines me
6:30 shock follows cade through floor ( rly good evidence)
6 again he waits for him to go on ramp and follows through wall
4:45 maybe?
I dont know u decide
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Off-Topic:
(which i couldnt even with my sniper script at fov 60)
Get rid of it
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It's funny cause last nite Fox and Kazee were pretty sure they saw the same thing.
Id post my demos but, I didn't really pay attention at all during the match, but i will if needed.
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Airtime is a wallhacker's paradise. I just skyhack the hell out of it, personally.
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I didn't believe it at first until I started hiding in random places and being hit with nades where no one throws them. I have demos of Renoir where toon admits he was using a aimbot also, will post later. As far as the walhack goes, toon and shockwave both stared at the wall by the y on propaint1 when we played them yesterday. Why would you just stare at the wall? Also when they'd go mid they would go right up againt the wall in mid and face towards are base. Sorry but I've never seen that before.
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only thing i saw on foxhounds was around 5:00... shockwave kept hitting the wall which was funny... other stuff recon-able blah
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nah their not walling....just recon
edit: also on airtime...u can tell where ppl are by where u see their line coming from...maybe u jst dont use ur head
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u can tell where ppl are by where u see their line coming from...maybe u jst dont use ur head
No one is shootin?
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yea this is a demo of pp1..
well yea tried to set him up but apparently he thinks plowed us liek ogm
you guys can watch if u want, most of it happens later where disciple times out near the end and its 1v2. imma get times later but this is the demo for now
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the beginning where he comes out of window and shoots us in one motion is just lol. its not an aimbot, he just knew where we both were, so how hard can it be
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^ um yeah, i just spent 20 minutes looking at nothing.
The real issue here is everyone trash talking like they're the greatest at a free online game. It's just sad. LOL
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If this is wh it's such a lies...
You just suck really bad at airtime :)
Only this part 4:38 - 4:35
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nah their not walling....just recon
edit: also on airtime...u can tell where ppl are by where u see their line coming from...maybe u jst dont use ur head
Lol, we all hid and decided not to shoot after we thought they were wh...so no they couldn't see lines. Use your head next time you post.
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And use quotes next time you post, Hoagy
THIS!
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tough call
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it some1 on his team dies first then they got recon
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dont double post
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^ um yeah, i just spent 20 minutes looking at nothing.
The real issue here is everyone trash talking like they're the greatest at a free online game. It's just sad. LOL
no ur just too stupid to know that hes spraying other places to make it look like hes not walling purposely. who wouldn't do that, unless you're a complete idiot.
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just wanted to say we matched shockwave and toon. toon has admitted he had the ratbot to me personally on vent. that is when we used to cool with each other. once he started using the rat he turned into a complete bundle of twigs. but what i was saying is that both of them were using there ratbots gainst us in the match. when asked for the demos toons reply was "u aint getting excrement". Obviously tying to hide something. it was a 2v2 so i wont have enough proof on my demos. it would be nice if one of the committee members talked to them and asked them for the demos. time is 11:10-11:50 appx cali time :D. As for walls he has mentioned he had walls for pp1. and for some reason they always knew without recon where we came from. lmfao intercoursein little kids.
EDIT: lol i forgot to mention when map was changed to pp1 they said one sec. took at least 3 min. perfect amount of time to removed=quality perfect wall hacks. in the beg of map he reconnected and stayed obs. once walls were on he kept telling one of them to leave or go obs so he can join. bad little boy.
EDIT: lmfao just watched spiders demo toon disconnected and then came back took him just as long as he did in the match that we played against them. Wow.
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The even funnier part of all this is the fact that even though they're hacking, they still lose...
Today we matched them and on Airtime it was so blatent that they basically knew where we were. Now me being there only half the map didn't help, but my team members were still commenting about it.
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Stop talking if you didn't see it for yourselves. You can watch whatever demo's you want. They were wallhacking, boozie and I matched them 2v2 and shockwave would shoot at the walls all the time, and he went 25-18, then I brought it up to him about walling. His partner then said "He's having internet problems" after he just straight up disconnected, then he came back and went 6-19. It's pretty messed up when I run over to mid on airtime and crouch under it and there's 2 lines over my head.
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i noticed the same thing in Spider's demo, when spiders was hiding behind mid ramp.. that there would be lines going over exactly where he was.. kinda obvious if you ask me.
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little female doges deserve a ban!!!
EDIT:this thing jitspoe has that changes bad words to diff words is funny. lol
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its just annoying because jitspoe doesn't even update to recent wallhacks and just sticks with zgh and penix. there are obviously new things out there and seems like he takes no care to this thread when various veteran players have said they are wallhacking. best thing to right now is for the comitte members to get their demos personally and check them out.
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when were matching my temate is always talking... giving me recon saying if he saw someone . and u just took parts of quotes i said to make it look bad. dont try it.
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when were matching my temate is always talking... giving me recon saying if he saw someone . and u just took parts of quotes i said to make it look bad. dont try it.
Shockwave, could you please supply demos of the matches seen in this thread?
Edit: So Shock, you cant upload, dcc or send in anyway your demos?
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Shockwave, could you please supply demos of the matches seen in this thread?
I would like to see them as well. I recall you saying you did text recon as well as recon on vent.
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5$ says he wont post them :O!
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Well, everyone knows what happens when you don't post demos :). Most of the time you get banned because you don't show your own evidence that you didn't cheat, etc.
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its just annoying because jitspoe doesn't even update to recent wallhacks and just sticks with zgh and penix. there are obviously new things out there and seems like he takes no care to this thread when various veteran players have said they are wallhacking. best thing to right now is for the comitte members to get their demos personally and check them out.
It's possible that he hasn't found the right detection for these new cheats yet. Jitspoe has a lot on his plate. Cheaters seem to have nothing better to do.
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i would like to see the demo's.. and another 5$ says he wont post in this thread again :D
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Im not defending these dudes cause I strongly believe they was hacking but when our home map was airtime, I always shoot over that left part of the ramp, simply cause every clan try to come over and go in rampway(box). But when both guys do it as soon as the player get there, then it becomes suspicious.
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Its so obvious. We played them on pp1 again today and they both kept saying they were having problems etc and reconnected. They scaled walls, stared at walls and shot at walls...how much proof do we need. Toon admitted he used a ratbot vs us on renoir...his score was 17-0 before he reconnected and then hardly kept positive...just ban them both and get it over with.
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did you have a demo from today? i wanna watch it, and what is a ratbot?
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yes, plz upload hoagy, cuz aside from everyone else, i wanna see more proof.... :)
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Its so obvious. We played them on pp1 again today and they both kept saying they were having problems etc and reconnected. They scaled walls, stared at walls and shot at walls...how much proof do we need. Toon admitted he used a ratbot vs us on renoir...his score was 17-0 before he reconnected and then hardly kept positive...just ban them both and get it over with.
It would help more if you showed us demos of him doing this....
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So many demos get talked about but not many get seen :). Hoagy's ones would be so good to look at. If only I saw them staring at a wall, shooting at it :P. What other reason do you have for that? That just cracks me up.
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7:08-7:00 was proof enough, that made me LOL!
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just another addition, like jig said, shockwave had made us wait after we matched them on pp1. We waited for a solid 13 minutes while he was fixing his computer after he just matched us for 20 minutes perfectly fine then all of a sudden its broke then he goes negative kdr on pp1. I'm pretty sure airtime has something to do with his hacking because he knows hes to stupid to use wall hacks cuz he'll run into walls if there are lots of them (just hinting the lack of walls in airtime to run into) idk I'm definitely sure that at one time he has wall hacked in all of our affidavits.
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just another addition, like jig said, shockwave had made us wait after we matched them on pp1. We waited for a solid 13 minutes while he was fixing his computer after he just matched us for 20 minutes perfectly fine then all of a sudden its broke then he goes negative kdr on pp1. I'm pretty sure airtime has something to do with his hacking because he knows hes to stupid to use wall hacks cuz he'll run into walls if there are lots of them (just hinting the lack of walls in airtime to run into) idk I'm definitely sure that at one time he has wall hacked in all of our affidavits.
*which wud give him time to go into his maps folder change the name of his hacked map and vid_restart
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I will post all the demos I have of them shortly...
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*which wud give him time to go into his maps folder change the name of his hacked map and vid_restart
And apparently delete his demos which he must do frequently cuz he says he doesnt have any(well at least toon said he doesnt have any and always has no comment on why he hasnt posted any)
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I will post all the demos I have of them shortly...
That would be nice :). Thankyou.
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And apparently delete his demos which he must do frequently cuz he says he doesnt have any(well at least toon said he doesnt have any and always has no comment on why he hasnt posted any)
Yea. Toon and shockwave are such a joke. Asked shockwave to post demos on the forums today. His response was "They can't force me and also, my computer is real old and can't produce demos". I almost died of laughter hearing that.
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Yea. Toon and shockwave are such a joke. Asked shockwave to post demos on the forums today. His response was "They can't force me and also, my computer is real old and can't produce demos". I almost died of laughter hearing that.
If i remember right, he told me "I can't post my demos because my computer is so old and the upload sites(including dplogin.com) will not let me upload them." I even asked him to send me his demos but he said "That doesn't work either, i have tried giving them to Toon"
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If i remember right, he told me "I can't post my demos because my computer is so old and the upload sites(including dplogin.com) will not let me upload them." I even asked him to send me his demos but he said "That doesn't work either, i have tried giving them to Toon"
gee i wonder what that could mean
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What does he mean by not being able to upload it. Someone could just set up a simple upload script temporarily for you. And also how did he try to upload it if he didn't / couldn't produce demos?
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he said in a GT server about 10 minutes ago that he already sent the demo's to jitspoe, idk if its true or not?
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People in the US are just waking up, we will find out sooner or later. And again, I thought he said he couldn't produce demos.
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i guess he was lying?
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People in the US are just waking up, we will find out sooner or later. And again, I thought he said he couldn't produce demos.
Yea. That's basically what he said.
Here's a SS of it. It's not the whole convo but you get the picture.
I've asked him plenty of times, and he's gave many excuses.
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MERKED
Old models FTL
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how old is old?
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how old is old?
Old enough to make a demo that he tried to upload :P.
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if he can make demos and store them, he definately should be able to upload them.. :/
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if he can make demos and store them, he definately should be able to upload them.. :/
well I got an old as comp myself. And I can even move on it but I can record and send demos. I have heard of people (Beam) who use windows 95 computers and can record demos.
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Heh, he must be using 3.1 then. I don't think Paintball is even compatiable with it.
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Talking bout old operating systems reminds me of a couple of weeks ago where a guy was like "I have Windows 98. I have MEGA LAGGGS". I wonder if that was shockwave :|.
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Too bad he doesnt lag once he starts playing. =/ only before the matches where he times out 10 times. I can't imagine why....
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Like i said me and kazee once waited for 13 whole meddling minutes waiting for him after he timed out over and over and over. It was ridiculous and we knew he was doing something because he had been playing perfectly with his walls on airtime to have problems right after the match ended. Toon also took about a minute or so getting into the room instead of connecting straight away.
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and during the first mini_1v1, i was reffing the server he was in... he didnt time out, or even lag once... kinda FISHY.
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he must be some kind of sorcerer...
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spawn of satan maybe?
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So... Is this being discussed with the Committee? Or what.
If not, are we going to just forget about it? Hmmm.
I'm Just curious to know.
Thanks.
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Doesnt look like it yet, but I'm sure we will.
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I'm waiting for Hoagy's demos. When they come I will be happy. Although those demos for me are convincing enough.
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I will post all the demos I have of them shortly...
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Sorry Cameron I have been extremely busy. I'll try to get them posted with times by the end of the weekend.
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Thanks buddy.
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2 more days until the end of the weekend.. countdown begins :D
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Toon: 71.195.123.101 = c-71-195-123-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
shockwave: 99.249.30.29 = CPE00096baff24c-CM001947931b92.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
Have a nice month.
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:). Me nd Loial 2v2'ed them the other day and Toon wouldn't spec anyone like Rick who I got to watch him. Might be why but we were playin to much to get to go watch if he was doin it.
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congratualations spiders and ur crew for banning TooN and myself. You actually got away with lying which really has shocked me. Cant believe you actually believed that we would hack. ITs really is pathetic. Alot of people "saying" a person murdered someone in court does not make that person guilty. Its called proof and evidence, and you have none of it. You have no idea for us wall hacking at all. You cant get away with lying I have always thought until now. And I doubt you will realize you have done something wrong. Gratz
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<Cameron> im talking about the nade that went into the mid path
<Cameron> 7:40
<Cameron> or something
<TooN|dpsucks> i naded spiders
<Cameron> he was hidden from view
<Cameron> exactly
<TooN|dpsucks> in the facve in mid
<Cameron> he was hidden from view
<TooN|dpsucks> he wsnt
<Cameron> he was....
<TooN|dpsucks> Checkers can see that
<Cameron> no, they cant
<[Fang]WarWulf> no it cant
<Cameron> he was further back that that
<TooN|dpsucks> They can see him riush out FD and go that side.
Lies Toon.
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shockwave^ please never compare this to a court system again...
if you want to ensure your innocence please have yourself or toon pm your demo's in question to one of us.
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toon & shockwave - submit your demos and end the discussion or take your ban like bois
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<TooN|dpsucks> Ive seen the demos
<Cameron> and you havn't posted yours
<TooN|dpsucks> No point anymore.
Don't think he will.
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^.^ Fox is happy more so about toon that shock. i like shock =/ but none the less very happy ^.^
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maybe toon should get a strafing hack.
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ha...only like 3 ppl strafe like that: toon, boozie, skater
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they must have a thumball mouse lol
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Jit, here it is
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Jit, here it is
Thought you couldn't post demos because of your comp being old? So you lied then? Right?
Just made me LOL. Was a great laugh, thanks.
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Jit, here it is
Would've rathered seen the demos against tr.
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So..... We have demos? What Rick said would be helpful as well.
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Would've rathered seen the demos against tr.
Yea because, You could of switched map files or turned the walls off while matching starz because you knew you'd have to post a demo on the forums. SO you used that one. I'd rather see the tR demos as well. The one hoagy was talking about .... That is.
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Jit, here it is
This is useless.
Post the demo of your match with tr as described in the FIRST post or don't bother posting a demo. This demo is irrelevant.
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Told you shockwave to not deal with Toon. Now look at you.
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Toons tough excrement
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So nobody actually watched the demo?
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We seen tR demos not theirs.
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yeah, we saw tR's demos... but yet to have seen shockwave's and toons demos. They most likely will not post those demos because pretty much they WERE hacking, yet they seem to be calling everyone liers etc. SO.. if i was toon or shockwave and i wanted my ban lifted(if they in fact did not hack) post the tR match demos.
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He says he's being banned without evidence meanwhile it's right there in the tR demo. ~.~
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Toon: 71.195.123.101 = c-71-195-123-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
shockwave: 99.249.30.29 = CPE00096baff24c-CM001947931b92.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
Have a nice month.
I thought if someone dont show demos or refuse. Time is doubled.
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That *would* be nice.....
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kind of funny when i didn't post demos i got 2 month ban.
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kind of funny when i didn't post demos i got 2 month ban.
I was about to bring that up... But yes...
That *would* be nice.....
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kind of funny when i didn't post demos i got 2 month ban.
IIRC you were an arse to Jits so he doubled it.
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IIRC you were an arse to Jits so he doubled it.
From what I know it was because they wouldnt show they demos. Or are you being sarcastic or funny.
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yea but i was in the match all 3 times and they specinvited me all 3 times they where not hacking just becouse the other team got owned at air1 does not me they hacked does it no
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coming from the kid that was in the same clan as them (Cutoff)..
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yea but i was in the match all 3 times and they specinvited me all 3 times they where not hacking just becouse the other team got owned at air1 does not me they hacked does it no
K who are you?
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If they specced you we can have your demos, right?
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think what he meant \wasi if we were specinvited could we see the walls which the answer is no.