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Fairness Enforcement => Cheater Reports and Bans => Topic started by: jitspoe on February 28, 2009, 11:19:33 PM

Title: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: jitspoe on February 28, 2009, 11:19:33 PM
Player ID:   32634

IP: 68.40.216.14 = c-68-40-216-14.hsd1.mi.comcast.net

Cheat: Modified skins, textures, looks like models, too.

Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Bix on February 28, 2009, 11:24:46 PM
Atleast he wasn't walling, hope those kids get a stiffer ban.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: capo on February 28, 2009, 11:37:23 PM
It's 32 day's?

Isn't this his second ban?

http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=6849.0
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: BRiG on February 28, 2009, 11:41:54 PM
want a screen shot?
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Tini on February 28, 2009, 11:46:25 PM
LOL brig's to sick
i dont think he should get banned because his skins are to jokes. Jitspoe please reconsider. :)
Look in your heart skinning isnt as bad as walling give him like a week ban i think thats appropraite!
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Rick on February 28, 2009, 11:48:40 PM
want a screen shot?
Yes
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Justinph5 on March 01, 2009, 12:06:24 AM
give him like a week ban i think thats appropraite!

the bans now are already just a slap on the wrist. He should be able to wait the little time that it already is.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: BRiG on March 01, 2009, 12:12:34 AM
Justin is that necessary
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Justinph5 on March 01, 2009, 12:43:03 AM
Justin is that necessary

Its not about you, its about asking for a lower ban time. A bunch of people have stupid reasons why ban times should be lowered or removed for certain people. Any type of modification to the game should get a modified content ban time, since that what it is, no matter how small it is.

You don't understand having many pages of issues for bans, and once we take care of them, almost every single time a ban is added, people complain about the times. I'm sure even if bans were made for only a week or so, some people would still complain that its too long for the small stuff. Sure, I know people have their opinions, but when someone cheats, people will try to justify the cheat or justify why the ban time is wrong. It becomes an annoyance when you see it every time a ban happens.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Byz on March 01, 2009, 01:21:48 AM
want a screen shot?
Yes , please.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: jitspoe on March 01, 2009, 01:56:24 AM
It's 32 day's?

Isn't this his second ban?

http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=6849.0
Ah, I thought he had been banned before, but I couldn't find his player id on the ban list.  Ban time has been increased to 64 days.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Homingbullet on March 01, 2009, 03:04:30 AM
just out of curiosity how did he get caught? and modified skins and models means? he modified his hitbox? or changed total shape of player?
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: eXitus on March 01, 2009, 03:19:01 AM
he modified his hitbox?

Is that possible??
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: KnacK on March 01, 2009, 08:29:56 AM
He cant modify the hitbox, but he can modify the player skins that fit the player models.



i dont think he should get banned because his skins are to jokes. Jitspoe please reconsider. :)
Look in your heart skinning isnt as bad as walling give him like a week ban i think thats appropraite!

You need to stop playing DP and go find another game where cheating is allowed.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Tini on March 01, 2009, 10:12:14 AM
Lmao if you see his skins.. you'd thikn its a work of art.
and nah dp is life Thanks to jitspoe for making it.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: BRiG on March 01, 2009, 02:09:26 PM
Hacking pretty much is allowed Knack i know so many people who have moded txtures. its rediculous, its more like a fair game w/ them then an unfair advantage... its like the whole saying "The glass is Have full" not "The glass is have empty" cause the numbers which you have an unfairadvantage too are prolly less, at least of the matching community.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: blaa on March 01, 2009, 02:21:58 PM
 That's just idiotic. You should get banned for 39 days, just because you are so dumb.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Rewind on March 01, 2009, 02:23:17 PM
Seeing all these people with modded stuff makes me feel a bit better about how awful I am in this game.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: BRiG on March 01, 2009, 02:27:32 PM
blaa it might sound idiotic but its the truth man..
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Spook on March 01, 2009, 02:28:31 PM
My theory is that not one man from the team will be banned. I think that if one person on the team modified something, then at the very least some of his buddies on the team have them too.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Olbaid on March 01, 2009, 02:31:58 PM
So are you implying that there are some people in the clan allstarz that have modified content?  Since homingbullet was in your clan at the time he was caught for modified content :|

Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Spook on March 01, 2009, 02:35:06 PM
No problem champ. Not like I care, I won't be caught :P
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: BRiG on March 01, 2009, 02:41:51 PM
who knows
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: BRiG on March 01, 2009, 02:46:09 PM
there
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: BRiG on March 01, 2009, 02:46:48 PM
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w127/hollisterkido69/sshot003-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: BRiG on March 01, 2009, 02:50:22 PM
And justin i dont recall complaining about my days, but justifying it i guess you could say that but i would like to call it giving you my reasoning.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Spook on March 01, 2009, 03:58:26 PM
Lol they look like blobs.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Bix on March 01, 2009, 04:00:09 PM
Brigade could definitely do better than that.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: SkaDooSh on March 01, 2009, 06:27:02 PM
i know so many people who have moded txtures.

Care to share?
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: lilb990 on March 01, 2009, 06:31:19 PM
He won't share. Don't even try to ask him.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: coLa on March 01, 2009, 10:22:39 PM
Hacking pretty much is allowed Knack i know so many people who have moded txtures. its rediculous, its more like a fair game w/ them then an unfair advantage... its like the whole saying "The glass is Have full" not "The glass is have empty" cause the numbers which you have an unfairadvantage too are prolly less, at least of the matching community.

I don't have modded textures. Guess that's why I'm still better than all you kiddies. You try to take the easy way, and fail when the "easy way" is taken from you.

And the word you are looking for is Half.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: coLa on March 01, 2009, 10:23:17 PM
[IMG]http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w127/hollisterkido69/sshot003-2.jpg[img]

LOL.... Those are terrible.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: DuDe on March 01, 2009, 10:50:50 PM
I don't have them either, if as many people as you said have them its just sad.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Bix on March 01, 2009, 11:39:24 PM
Atleast he didn't have modded maps like all the other champs.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Viper on March 02, 2009, 12:28:15 AM
I wanna see a modded map, never saw something like that
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Bix on March 02, 2009, 08:31:47 AM
Imagine walls like the mid bunker things on blitz.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: abnormal on March 02, 2009, 08:54:46 AM
Is it punishable to have for example the same player's textures like in Quake2 jump mod? However, I dont know how to make it, but sometimes maybe I will so I want to know if you would ban me then..
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: magalhaes on March 02, 2009, 09:45:28 AM
yes.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Fitz on March 02, 2009, 03:40:57 PM
I do hope some of you realize why his colours are so obnoxiously bright... and no, it doesn't have to do with a so called "sight advantage".
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: supermonkey on March 03, 2009, 07:06:47 PM
No idea Fitz, do share.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Justinph5 on March 03, 2009, 07:26:42 PM
it'll probably be something like he's color blind and those obnoxious colors are the only ones he can see.

edit: no offense if you are :P just thinking of reasons. ;)
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Br55HiT on March 03, 2009, 08:28:56 PM
I do believe one of the uR members IS color blind.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Bix on March 03, 2009, 09:20:29 PM
I can't see red models very well on grass because i am color blind to red and green. LT was also color blind.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Br55HiT on March 03, 2009, 11:34:00 PM
I bet Bix made some changes to accommodate his handicap.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Bix on March 03, 2009, 11:59:53 PM
I did. Who didn't is the question. Anyways I still have screenshots from the good ol days of modified dp.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Fitz on March 04, 2009, 12:10:25 AM
No idea Fitz, do share.
Most likely used with a pixel macro of sorts. Similar to the ones used in RS and WoW I'm assuming, and most likely undetectable by any conventional checks.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Homingbullet on March 04, 2009, 10:53:07 AM
rofl holy SHIIIIT darn i thought when they said moded player models i had no idea it could be this bad... how the heck do u make it like that and why would u? it looks like an octopus jumping around or whatever that thing is supposed to be. lol. WOW...

lol olbaid   
So are you implying that there are some people in the clan allstarz that have modified content?  Since homingbullet was in your clan at the time he was caught for modified content :|

Thanks for the tip.

haha u really  think i have moded stuff like this. it looks stupid why in the world would i even try to make my player models like this and i have not the slightest clue how the heck u can do that. i only know how to rename textures.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Olbaid on March 04, 2009, 11:16:08 AM
I never said you had anything related to what Brigade has.  Modified content encompasses a large variety of things.  Stop putting words into my mouth.

Also, learn to use the quote feature instead of just copying and pasting what was previously said.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: m7feettall on March 04, 2009, 11:54:39 AM
Hacking pretty much is allowed Knack i know so many people who have moded txtures. its rediculous, its more like a fair game w/ them then an unfair advantage... its like the whole saying "The glass is Have full" not "The glass is have empty" cause the numbers which you have an unfairadvantage too are prolly less, at least of the matching community.



If you are concerned about a level playing field then turn in the hackers, and we can get back to a normal game.

Most likely used with a pixel macro of sorts. Similar to the ones used in RS and WoW I'm assuming, and most likely undetectable by any conventional checks.

So what does a pixel macro do?

Based on your comment about it being used in RS and WOW I would assume it was used for leveling like most of the macros there. But that would not help in DP.

Are you suggesting a different sort of aimbot?

Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Justinph5 on March 04, 2009, 02:14:58 PM
I presume a pixel macro detects and snaps to certain pixels, and follows it with a macro. In this case, it would detect the pinkish color and 'snap' the cursor on top of it, then if wanted to, it could even be told to shoot? In short, an aimbot that needs specific colors to aim at?

Therefore it would use the screen pixels, and doesn't alter the game (other than having to change texture colors) therefore making it undetectable in the game itself. Thanks Fitz, now we know why "color-blind" colors could cause a problem, since now it would snap to everything red (player, barrels, banners, etc) and would be useless.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Br55HiT on March 04, 2009, 02:44:30 PM
I'm sorry but this takes the cake as the best modded content ever.

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p211/Hitman007007/sshot010.jpg)
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Fitz on March 04, 2009, 05:35:19 PM
Based on your comment about it being used in RS and WOW I would assume it was used for leveling like most of the macros there. But that would not help in DP.

Yes, they tend to be used for autoclicking and autolooting as well.

 
I presume a pixel macro detects and snaps to certain pixels, and follows it with a macro. In this case, it would detect the pinkish color and 'snap' the cursor on top of it, then if wanted to, it could even be told to shoot? In short, an aimbot that needs specific colors to aim at?

Therefore it would use the screen pixels, and doesn't alter the game (other than having to change texture colors) therefore making it undetectable in the game itself. Thanks Fitz, now we know why "color-blind" colors could cause a problem, since now it would snap to everything red (player, barrels, banners, etc) and would be useless.

I'm not saying that he used them or that it would even work, but such blatant colours like that reminded me of a friend who modded an old game I used to play so a macro could be used and clicked on the colour every time the colour came across the screen. The colours always had to be something ridiculously bright or else it would click on other objects in the game besides the ones desired.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: ip0d on March 04, 2009, 05:53:28 PM
I'm sorry but this takes the cake as the best modded content ever.

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p211/Hitman007007/sshot010.jpg)


LOL
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Bix on March 04, 2009, 06:22:42 PM
rofl holy SHIIIIT darn i thought when they said moded player models i had no idea it could be this bad... how the heck do u make it like that and why would u? it looks like an octopus jumping around or whatever that thing is supposed to be. lol. WOW...

lol olbaid  
So are you implying that there are some people in the clan allstarz that have modified content?  Since homingbullet was in your clan at the time he was caught for modified content :|

Thanks for the tip.

haha u really  think i have moded stuff like this. it looks stupid why in the world would i even try to make my player models like this and i have not the slightest clue how the heck u can do that. i only know how to rename textures.

Thanks for 'Ass|u|me' ing homing.

 Anyways if you think this stuff is crazy...should have seen some stuff back in the day. God modded content = win. IMO jpeg editing should be allowed.

Oh god BR, looking through my photobucket account....this excrement is GREAT
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: SkaDooSh on March 04, 2009, 06:30:08 PM
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w127/hollisterkido69/sshot003-2.jpg)

No wonder people are so good, they can see everyone much better.
Proves that if your good with computers and can change this kind of stuff you win and we (who cant) lose.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Bix on March 04, 2009, 06:50:36 PM
What is shown there is detectable and that is why he got banned. You only get away with that for a matter of hours before you are banned.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: SKEET on March 06, 2009, 04:02:26 PM
wow. those textures are horrid. LoL
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: BRiG on March 22, 2009, 08:11:03 PM
I do hope some of you realize why his colours are so obnoxiously bright... and no, it doesn't have to do with a so called "sight advantage".
oh boy havnt updated myself in this thread in while, but they arnt so bright for a macro i promise you all this its just a bright advantage.. pbcup_sassault for exapmle could see anything. im not ganna lie its not the hardest thing in the world to do but i never thought of the macro thing. i wouldnt wanna play with an aimbot in dp i just think it was funner with the mods.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: s0ul0 on March 27, 2009, 06:51:38 AM
hey i
I did. Who didn't is the question. Anyways I still have screenshots from the good ol days of modified dp.
to jitspoe:
how do you sort out the people who are geniunely color-blind from the people who lie to have an advantage over other players? people who claim to be color blind get a free-pass at modding content? must be nice.

i just find it odd that one of the best rated players in the game just happens to be colorblind and admits to having modded content after a string of bans. how convenient.

i think i know a way to solve this issue though, i just thought of it.

bix should upload his textures folder and post the link here. then maybe jitspoe can edit the detection so the server doesnt detect it as modified content. maybe have two different 'allowed' texture builds for DP, the normal one and the one for color-blind players, this seems to me the only way to settle this.

I can't see red models very well on grass because i am color blind to red and green. LT was also color blind.
bix, does this mean that you have only swapped the red and green textures/models in the game?

and also i doubt you changed the textures of the red-barrels to reflect your new color of the old red-player model.

for example: on pp1 theres blue barrels in the blue players base..

my example of how someone could cheat and get away with it:
i come on the forum and post about how im color blind, then i go into my textures folder and swap my red/blue barrel textures for green ones like brigade has done. now its much easier to see people when they are camping beside barrels in their base. my opponents barrel is no longer the same color as my opponent, therefore giving me a sight advantage. youre telling me that i wont be banned because i admitted to being colorblind beforehand?

so i ask again, how do you sort out the liars?

 cus it seems to me that any colorblind player can do this and get away with it, turn theyre dis-advantage into an advantage over the opponent.

thoughts?
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: KnacK on March 27, 2009, 07:19:41 AM
Quote
how do you sort out the people who are geniunely color-blind from the people who lie to have an advantage over other players? people who claim to be color blind get a free-pass at modding content? must be nice.


You really need to read more.  Jitspoe is not going to make consessions for people who are colorblind or claim to be colorblind.

Modified textures will be detected.

I can see in the future release that there will be a new and official texture pac containing the best of all of the textures currently floating out there.

Now, back on topic please.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: Bix on March 27, 2009, 07:49:40 AM
Sorry Knack, I need to pull off on this tangent because...well, you read his post.

I modded textures many years ago Soulo, probably around early 07. Most of it had to red / green.

NOW, my dp is purely b26 + y00tz grass (solves my problem) + some hr4 pack from some german. For some reason the grass on my pp1 etc is a lot more...'dead' looking so it appears more brownish to my eye. It is 100% legal, I do not have modded content. I don't have modded content due to be color-blind, nor do I believe jitspoe will ever give these people an advantage in any way.

Soulo, stop getting mad we didn't want you in 3iob.
Title: Re: Modified Content: Brigade/Cynikal
Post by: KnacK on March 27, 2009, 08:07:28 AM
Nice explanation Bix.