Digital Paint Discussion Board
Digital Paint Community => Clans, Matches, and Tournaments => Topic started by: ButtaKnife on July 26, 2010, 04:36:37 PM
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We've had a team of several dedicated people working nearly round-the-clock to prepare for this, and here's the awesomeness that they have created:
Global Gamers is proud to announce that we are hosting a Global Gamers Paintball 2.0 League. The league will be the first time since PBCup 2006 that teams will be able to participate in a structured league format. The league is free to enter, and to celebrate the first season, there will be prizes for the top two teams!
IRC Channel: #DPLeague (http://www.globalgamers.net/?p=webchat&chan=dpleague&nojava=true)
Website: http://www.globalgamers.net/league (http://www.globalgamers.net/league)
Registration Info
Registration will be provided on the website. Log in to the league website using your GG NickServ account information. Teams must have no fewer than 4 players and no more than 8. Read more about teams in the Rules section below.
Rules
Match fixtures
- Match fixtures and timings are determined at the start of the week.
- If both teams can agree to change a game's scheduled time in the presence of an admin, games may be rescheduled.
- Each team has up to 15 minutes after the game's scheduled start time to have at least one player online, or else they will incur a 0-50 loss. When their first player connects, that team then has another 15 minutes to get a second player online, or else they will incur a 0-50 loss. If only 2 people on a team show up for a match, they have the option of forfeiting or playing.
Gameplay
- Matches must be played on servers with an approved config. These servers will be labeled and include both US and EU servers.
- No more than 6 players per team on the server.
Teams
- Must have a minimum of 4 players and a max of 8.
- 1 captain per team plus 1 optional "co-captain" allowed
- Teams must be formed in advance; no new teams in the middle of the season.
- The captain invites players to join the team.
- Each player must accept their invitation.
- All players must be registered on DPLogin at least one month before a season starts.
- Teams don't have to be registered as DPLogin clans, and are made of people that want to play together.
- No players can change clans during the season.
- A new player may join a team mid-season if he hasn't already been part of another team during the season.
- Not all players assigned to a team are required to play during the season.
Cheating & forfeits
- Each player must upload the screenshot and demo of each match. Failure to do so will result in suspension from further league games until all are submitted.
- If a team member leaves a game having informed the players/ref prior to leaving, leaving their team with 1 or less members, they forfeit which counts as 50-0 on the current map and any remaining maps needing to be played. This player must still submit a screenshot and demo.
- If a team member leaves without informing the players/ref prior to leaving, leaving their team with 1 or less members, they forfeit the current and remaining maps 50-0, and the player who "ragequit" is suspended for the next game. This player must still submit a screenshot and demo.
- If a player plays in any map, no matter how long, he must provide a screenshot and demo. If the player doesn't stay till the end of the game, he must get the screenshot and demo of when he played manually, as the automatic ending-screenshot won't be taken.
- If a player is "timed out", causing his team to have 1 or less players available, then that team forfeits that map (unless the player reconnects within 1 round after timing out) and they can wait up to 15 minutes for the return until they forfeit the rest of the match. No suspensions are given out.
- If a member of a team is caught cheating, either in or outside of an official league game, that player will be suspended from all league games indefinitely.
- Any team with a member who is caught cheating will receive 1 warning, and they will retroactively lose any matches that member played in.
- If a team has already received a warning for cheating and then a second member is caught cheating, that team will be disqualified from the season.
Prizes
- Prizes will be awarded to the top 4 players from 1st and 2nd place teams.
1st place can choose between Razer or SteelSeries mousepad, SteelSeries headset, or ThinkGeek.com certificate (or Amazon.com certificate if they're in NA).
- 2nd place can choose between SteelSeries mousepad or ThinkGeek.com certificate (or Amazon.com certificate if they're in NA).
- Top 4 players are determined by activity in matches played. Each member of the winning team for each match should submit a screenshot of the final scores. The 4 players of each team who appear in the most matches (with a high enough score to have not joined the match at the last minute) will be eligible for prizes. If there is a tie between players on the same team, the player with the higher KDR will be eligible for the prize.
Maps
- pbcup_renoir
- CCC
- disaster
- Sandassault
- Wipa
- Tie: Pbcup_sassault
- Carpathian
- Eclissi
- beta/Flaw_mines_b2 (Latest version)
- Badlands
- Duck
- Tie: pbcup_pforest
- Indune
- Wobluda
- Moonlt2r1
- kfields
- beta/zpar11_beta
- Tie: propaint1
- Freedom
- ub_colombia
- Mirror2 (No Glitching)
- Kalbeach
- Sassault4_b1
- Tie: nml
- Crimethink
- Pbcup_everglades
- ub_rooftop
- Nitefactor
- beta/twiling_b3
- Tie: Shazam22
- Prolandr
- Shazam33
- coi
- Sandtrap
- airtime
- Tie: OTH
- Pbcup_2fort5
- Tatras
- Mystique
- Darkages
- Sphouse
- Tie: Castle1
Playoff maplist is based off all the tiemaps.
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There you have it, folks!
On behalf of Global Gamers, we want to thank everyone who has helped us plan for the upcoming league. We'll name all of you as soon as we make sure that we have a complete list. :)
(Edit 2010-07-26: Added map list)
(Edit 2010-07-27: Some rules have been clarified, formatting improved)
(Edit 2010-08-06: Added league website URL)
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This is flipping fantastic. Thank you dearly GlobalGamers, and anyone who helped make this come to fruition. I have the upmost hope this helps spawn some more activity, but I'm fairly sure it will be a more than good enough reason to continue playing this game.
<3
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And you didn't even have to ask me for my help Butta, whats up with that?
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gl
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sounds good to me
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beta/zparr11_beta is supposed to be beta/zpar11_beta :P
There has also been some problems with the recording of demos for some people, what will happen if the person 'legitly' couldn't record one?
Goodluck to everyone that plays.
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beta/zparr11_beta is supposed to be beta/zpar11_beta :P
lol, i think he means zpar11_beta :D and everyone will need to make sure that the demo starts to auto-record, especially on maps: twiling_b3 and shazam22, before starting the match. Make the captains responsible to remind their team.
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I see so many people crying about forgetting to take a ss/demo.
Good job anyway.
There are too many maps in my opinion(too many bad maps...). One big map Pool for all weeks and alternating Tie-Maps would be enough.
When will this league start?
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I actually love the maplist. It's incredibly balanced as far as gameplay types.
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Here's a pack of all the maps from the league maplist, it's a 20MB 7zip file, so you need WinRAR or 7-zip (free) to open it. Just extract to the C:\games\paintball2 folder.
Download (http://www.viciouz.co.uk/other/ggdpleague.7z)
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There are a couple maps that I dislike although I know most of them (not well but good enough), pbcup_everglades, coi are the worst there IMO. Erhm... not sure disaster as the best gameplay since one path is much faster than the other, anyways... good maplist
beta/zparr11_beta is supposed to be beta/zpar11_beta :P
Rick is happy because his map is on the list ;)
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If there's one thing I've learned, you can't satisfy everyone with a maplist
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just dont understand why everyone needs to uload demo and scrn shot..
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^So there will be no complaining about hackers... The rules for hackers on here should be imnplemented as the dplogin rules ;)
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i think we should just upload the demo......... coz whats the point of a ss?
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Screenshots are easier as a quick reference.
You get prizes, we get demos and screenshots.
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^So there will be no complaining about hackers... The rules for hackers on here should be imnplemented as the dplogin rules ;)
You would need a better more objective team to look through peoples demos...
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You would need a better more objective team to look through peoples demos...
Guess this is an open application to review all demo's in the demo request section and confirm the suspicious times?
I had the ambition to watch every single uploaded demo when I joined the commitee. I did this during the first 2 weeks, than I got sick of the 20 demo's I watched without any suspicious moments. Than I gave it another try when the demo request subboard was opened, and again I wasted a lot of time on watching demo's of kids getting plowed. From the 45 topics in the board I think only 2 or 3 can be considered slightly suspicious.
Seriously, all people are requesting a demo should take up the responsibility themselves. If you request my demo, you should check it and confirm which times are to be considered suspicious. Than others (f.e. the commitee) can review them to verify whether indeed hacks were used, or you're just a bad loser.
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inb4 commitee rage
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cute idea ;]
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Sounds good. +1 for the maplist.
6 players can be on the server, but how many players can play?
What will happen, if both teams are not showing up?
There are 5 maps each week. How many maps will be played? Can each team choose one/two map/maps from it? Or how does it work?
Will the default match fixtures be on the weekend? Because i can't play in the middle of the night, if i have to work the next day.
Will the serverconfig based on the game's default settings (with guntemp, flagmustbeatbase, flagcapendsround,...)?
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I hope it's during the week cuz I don't play during the weekends :P
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The map list is great. Having a single pool for all weeks is just like our current match scene. Everyone wants to always play the same maps over and over again. To me this makes it so boring. Try jumping in teamX's vent when we match. When we're asked for a map every member tries to come up with some random map they haven't played in forever just to make the match fun. It also allows less fortunate teams to have a chance. Hopefully the maps the teams must actually play are not announced until they show up to the server. That would make it fun. Hopefully the referee is the one who decides ALL maps to keep certain teams from picking the exact same ones over and over again.
Hopefully the match times are steady and given in a few days advance so you could quite possibly schedule to have time off of work for that particular day. If not then I would suggest building a large team to help make sure you have the minimum amount of players in the match regardless of the time.
Maybe Butta can chime in and answer these questions,
1) Who decides the maps played? When are they decided on? How early will the teams know?
2) How many players per team during a match? 4v4 I'm assuming?
3) Will the times of the matches be posted in advance?
4) Will there be a designated REF or a GG representative present to help keep the drama down?
5) Can you enact a rule where if one team has two separate instances where a teammate does not submit a demo, then the whole team id removed from the league? Here, there needs to be a time limit for demo submission. I would suggest taking advantage of Viciouz's demo host.
Thank you.
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League sounds good and maps seem fair. I saw sassault4_b1 on the list, and suggest changing it to b2. They are identical, except that b2 has a slightly less laggy mid and fixed vis errors that block vision in crucial areas. A general question about beta maps: If the map is updated beyond the current version before the league begins, is it updated in the map list? How about during the league? Thanks in advance for the answers and the obvious hard work by all organizers involved :)
-Cusoman
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6 players can be on the server, but how many players can play?
3 players at a time can play, but they can sub as many times as they wish as long as they all provide demo's and screenshot's of their playing time. Basically - As long as your registered to the team you can play at any time for that team.
What will happen, if both teams are not showing up?
A penalty will be handed out for both teams. It will result in a 50-0 loss on every map for both teams.
There are 5 maps each week. How many maps will be played? Can each team choose one/two map/maps from it? Or how does it work?
Each team picks their map [Yes both teams can pick the same map]. The tiemap is only used if both teams win a match, it's not a 3 map each time, its a best of 3.
Will the default match fixtures be on the weekend? Because i can't play in the middle of the night, if i have to work the next day.
The match fixtures will be between Wednesdays to Saturdays I believe, and each team will have 1 game per week. Since during the season americans and europeans do not play eachother, so the times in the season shouldn't be a problem.
Will the serverconfig based on the game's default settings (with guntemp, flagmustbeatbase, flagcapendsround,...)?
None of those will be enabled. It's pretty much a standard match server settings.
I hope I answered what you needed, all these and more will be put on the website!
EDIT: Responding to Flip
1- Each player choose their own map from the map pool. They are decided on anytime prior to the start. Both teams must inform the ref of the maps chosen. The teams will know as soon as they pick :)
2- It's 3v3 - 4 to 8 players can register as a team, but only 6 players from the same team can be in a server at once.
3- The schedule will be posted every Sunday so teams know their matchups for the following week. Also - Teams may change their scheduled match, but they must have both team captains[or co-captains] agree and inform an admin.
4- Yes, we will have a ref or GG rep present at each game. We're also turning off public chat.
5- A player who doesn't submit the demo cannot play in further league games until all demo's are submitted up to date. We don't punish the team, we punish the player.
League sounds good and maps seem fair. I saw sassault4_b1 on the list, and suggest changing it to b2. They are identical, except that b2 has a slightly less laggy mid and fixed vis errors that block vision in crucial areas. A general question about beta maps: If the map is updated beyond the current version before the league begins, is it updated in the map list? How about during the league? Thanks in advance for the answers and the obvious hard work by all organizers involved :)
-Cusoman
We will constantly update the maps to their newest versions.
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We will constantly update the maps to their newest versions.
So zpar11_beta might get changed to zpar11_cuso ? :/
@Idias, I'm probably not going to play in the league so I'm not excited about zpar :(
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The tourney is good but the most the servers have not had some of the maps (GOOD LUCK) ;)
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You would need a better more objective team to look through peoples demos...
In my opinion there is no team needed for this.
I guess uploading the demo/ss will allready force people to do not hack because they are afraid someone finds out.
If demos are public after every match(which I support) anyone who is in the mind someone played suspicious can watch the demo on his own and if there is some strange play in the demo he can make a post about it. I see no problem here.
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"Hopefully the match times are steady and given in a few days advance so you could quite possibly schedule to have time off of work for that particular day."
LOL u serious ? D::D:D:D: u would skip work for dp2 :_DD_:f.,gh ÖLOPOLLOLgkrlgmfdPOROFL IM PJHENIX
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just so annoying to upload ur demo after each meddling match... there is a cheat detection system right ? so if someone hacks he iwll be banned eventually..
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I guess I will not play in the tourney. If I have to deal with the same stuff that happens every time I match now what is the point? The maps should be random and decided by the ref. Allowing the teams to pick their own map is pointless. Make the teams work for it. If you punish the team then maybe peer pressure will kick in and eliminate some of the drama that is likely to ensue. If you make the team responsible for the players and subject them to be accountable for their teammates action then maybe the players who really want to play will stop hanging with the ones who choose to disrespect everyone else with their cheating.
I guess I was going out on a limb thinking that maybe Global Gamers creation of a league would help our community, not keep it the same. The only difference here is that there is no need to even run a team tag.
Enjoy the tourney, Gentlemen and thank you GlobalGamers for setting it up.
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There is no point in letting someone else choose the maps. why the hell random ? so worse teams can win by luck ? thats just dumb !
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Screenshots are easier as a quick reference.
You get prizes, we get demos and screenshots.
dont think anyone will play just to win stuff
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Luck? It is called game play. Most of the clans pick some random map noone has played in awhile or some beta map that no one is familiar with now anyways just to gain an edge. How would a worse team win by playing any map that is listed? Any map takes teamwork. All maps that can be picked by the ref are already listed. If you didn't know which maps would be selected it would require you to get familiar with all of them. In an essence it makes it a little more exciting and helps break out the monotony of what we experience everyday in the clan scene now.
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still let everyone pick their own maps
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Flip, I agree with you completely. One of the stupidest things bringing this game down is the inability of clans to play more than 3 maps. Thats wonderful, you can beat anyone on 3 maps, that doesn't mean you're good at this game. It gets boring playing the same clans on the same maps all day. That being said, I still think this tournament will help the game a lot.
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Hooks and content swap hacks can be toggled. One screenshot taken at the player's discretion will not likely help detect any cheaters. If there truly are smart cheaters that have been avoiding detection like everyone assumes, they are not going to be deterred or caught by the screenshot requirements.
I think some players might still notice a slight freeze whenever they do a screenshot (because the jpeg function takes a noticeable time to run and lags the game a bit). So requiring them to do it when they are alive could be problematic.
When I wrote the autodemo code, I also wrote another command that would force a screenshot on players at random times in the match and briefly draw some random stuff to their screen so that it could not (easily) be edited or faked after a match. This was abandoned because of the screenshot lag that many people were experiencing.
[speculation]You might be able to find a hidden screenshot function in the closed source portion that takes a screenshot and is supposed to upload it to a remote server, but maybe I'm mistaken (been years).[/speculation]
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but arent the screenshots just meant to show the final score, so no one tries to fake wins?
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but arent the screenshots just meant to show the final score, so no one tries to fake wins?
I guess I misread it... but the rules aren't clear since they're no automatic endgame screenshot that takes place (unless that's something in a very recent build). If it's for reference only, what's the point of having 6-12 screenshots uploaded for each map of the match? They're not accurate anyway and if they wanted to do stats they would have to parse the stat logs.
Disciplining players that forget to take a screenshot before the map changes isn't very nice :(
If a player plays in any map, no matter how long, he must provide a screenshot and demo. If the player doesn't stay till the end of the game, he must get the screenshot and demo of when he played manually, as the automatic ending-screenshot won't be taken.
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I think the screenshots were just meant to have "evidence" of the final score. I think it's reasonable to expect that at least 1 out of 6 players will be smart enough to make one :)
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The ref can provide a screenshot that shows the final score. If this was the only purpose, it'd be 1 member per team. The reason is to view textures, which we're currently working on being able to randomly take the screenshot once every map, and this would be the one which has to be uploaded. This saves the players 'forgetting' about taking it, and just makes them have to upload it as well, they wont know when it'll be taken.
Fl1p/Rewind: The same few maps do usually get played, but they usually get played for the reason of good gameplay. But this league has 42 different maps, the tiemaps are generic as they should be known and played by both teams. The pools have underplayed maps, pub maps, and a few maps that are used often. This provides each team with chances.
Anyways, it's impossible to please everyone with how the maps are done. If we said: pp1 s22 pforest, half the community would be thrilled, and have would be annoyed. If we did completely random, half the community would be thrilled, half would be annoyed. We figured this way, it pleases more of the community and it forces different maps which allows creativity.
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None of those will be enabled. It's pretty much a standard match server settings.
I would like to see enabled guntemp. It's not very hard to play with it. We have enabled it for a year or longer on the [OTB] servers and it works great. I think the most players wouldn't notice it, but you can prevent too much lines and players who run with a line through the map. So you need a little, little bit tactic.
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In order to avoid changing rules or settings at this point, I would suggest you guys compile a list of suggestions to be implemented/changed for the next season.
About the map arguments, though, I have never seen a competition where players couldn't choose their own maps. That sounds like a recipe for disaster in a normal competition, but it could be fun as a weekly "random map play" event from the community. If someone wanted to organize something like that, we'd certainly do everything we can to help out.
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The reason is to view textures, which we're currently working on being able to randomly take the screenshot once every map, and this would be the one which has to be uploaded. This saves the players 'forgetting' about taking it, and just makes them have to upload it as well, they wont know when it'll be taken.
Figured as much. I'm not sure if the screenshot freeze problem (http://dplogin.com/forums/index.php?topic=1713.0) was resolved, but that's what I was referring to. It doesn't appear that anyone has reported problems with it since. I'm sure Vic will be able to figure out howto get the screenshots done automagically (though I'm pretty sure a custom server binary would be required :-\)
Now onto the discussion as to how custom hi-res textures are going to be enforced... lol. There's no standard HR4 pack, people have different tastes when it comes to custom textures. Anything beyond the obviously unacceptable single colour or greyscale textures is going to be up for interpretation. This sounds like a job for the texture police and its subsequent justice system.
I suggest just to do away with the screenshot requirement. The anti-cheat team for this league will be busy enough scrutinizing every luck-spray-shot in the hundreds of demos that they're going to get uploaded them.
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Will there be any modifications on the maps? Maybe entity files for more fair entities?
There are a few maps with very different entities. Most of them not even have the "group" key.
And badlands (p.a.) is a nice map and I like to play it, but it has lots of bugs.
Bugs like the ones on badlands are impossible to fix without a new mapfile, I know that. But I would really like to see entity files at least :D
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badlands is the worst map on the list. never seen anyone leave their base on that map
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badlands is the worst map on the list. never seen anyone leave their base on that map
you won't see any when you sit in your own base...
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If those screenshots should show if someone is playing with illegal textures they have to be uploaded automaticaly in the seconds after it was taken.
Otherwise I cannot see a problem for such people to upload a clean ss while playing with illegal textures. Think about it.
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i think we should just upload the demo......... coz whats the point of a ss?
You can hide modified content with a demo, not a screenshot.
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tht Is true
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Just ask blaa & gama how to make cups/league and all is ok. thank you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1SAr1rMwwE).
And tell us (http://gostodisto.blogs.sapo.pt/arquivo/europa.jpg) when it starts or we can't get out from work how someone from here said.
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Just ask blaa & gama how to make cups/league and all is ok. thank you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1SAr1rMwwE).
And tell us (http://gostodisto.blogs.sapo.pt/arquivo/europa.jpg) when it starts or we can't get out from work how someone from here said.
Blaa is in the army and gamabunta is helping, so shhh...
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Blaa is in the army
I LOL hard at the imagination of blaa in the army :D
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meant in a positive way ofc... just can't imagine the face of the officers when he throws up some smartass comments like he always makes
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Just use the super secret committee screenshot bind. ;)
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Thank you viper for everything, without you, this wouldn't even possible. TY, i <3 you.
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Thank you nub for all the thought and planning for wanting to put on an event like this! ;)
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beta/zparr11_beta is supposed to be beta/zpar11_beta :P
There has also been some problems with the recording of demos for some people, what will happen if the person 'legitly' couldn't record one?
you Forfeit if anyone else gets a demo because if it works for one person it should work for others. and if it doesnt work that means you should reinstall so that you don't forfeit again..
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you Forfeit if anyone else gets a demo because if it works for one person it should work for others. and if it doesnt work that means you should reinstall so that you don't forfeit again..
Thanks for answering my question. Too bad Ricochet already had :/
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just my thought, didnt know ricochet had the final word in everything. sorry
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just my thought, didnt know ricochet had the final word in everything. sorry
No he doesn't. But I'm pretty sure Butta does, '(Edit 2010-07-27: Some rules have been clarified, formatting improved)'.
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I want to reserve a spot:
Team: What The ____?
Players[5/8]: MyeRs - Shk - CheMiCaL - SuMMit - Kazee
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i think [kuc] is in
#kuc
i gues..
8/8
hayden
zimtstern
byz
chiko
marawana
ph3n1x
Henkka
Edgecrusher
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#allstarz will be in also not sure on the players exactly yet..
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Darkness - #darkness (7/8)
Viper
Frozer
Meini
Delphi
Jimmy
Spain
Exitus
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#overpowered (6/8)
Essien
dZ
Shy
Malv
Xico
Streem
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#team_x
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oXmoze - #oxmoze (8/8)
przeMx
bangy
dd9
frazer
flyover
xend
khan
bjorn
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Insane Junction
#team_ij (5/8)
dro
gwb
foxhound
combat
xbishopx
*Note* Reserving a spot for 2 more people.
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Insane Junction
#team_ij (8/8)
dro
gwb
foxhound
combat
xbishopx
gonass
ta
airhead
Captain - dro | Co-Captain - gwb
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Team NobleXity
#noblexity (7/8)
abnormal
sunman
f3l1x
smacker
aveiro
shao
rychlik.8
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Thanks guys! The NA and EU divisions both have room for 2 more teams, unless we expand it.
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Correction - On the maplist it says "ub_colombia" and it should be "ub_columbia"
Feedback - This is going to be a good thing good luck and thanks for organizing this :)
Reservation - #Inner_sanctum
5/8
Impactz
Juiicy
Cusoman
L!nK
Hyphy
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(http://i17.tinypic.com/80pw18n.jpg)
Please sign up "College Court - [CC]"
Players:
Olbaid :: Dystro :: Bix :: Reaver :: Jusu :: skater
We would like 3 gift cards and 1 headset.
Who should I send our addresses to?
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Ok, NA still has room for one more team -- but don't let that keep you from saying you want to enter your team. If there's enough interest, I suppose we could allow more to sign up.
[Edit] Also, you don't need to specify your players here. Once the league site is ready, you'll log in and add players to your team on your own.
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i think [kuc] is in
#kuc
i gues..
8/8
hayden
zimtstern
byz
chiko
marawana
ph3n1x
Henkka
tehnoob
TehNoob :*
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TehNoob :*
aveiro wants to spam whole world .....
and ... lol i am glad that i am banned that ligue is freak ......
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Please sign up xP
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Ahhh, thanks ulti! I had you down for a slot but didn't know what your team name was. :)
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NA division is now full! Sorry to any team that wanted to play but didn't make it in. Maybe next season we can expand the size of the divisions!
In that interest, anyone please feel free to make a post saying your team was interested. This could help us gauge possible interest for future season(s).
For the record, NA teams are:
- -aY- alcoholics annonymous (http://dplogin.com/index.php?action=viewclan&clanid=9769)
- *StaRz* Allstarz (http://dplogin.com/index.php?action=viewclan&clanid=5012)
- [CC] College Court (http://dplogin.com/index.php?action=viewclan&clanid=5029)
- -]SanC[- Inner Sanctum (http://dplogin.com/index.php?action=viewclan&clanid=13058)
- .Ij. Insane Junction (http://dplogin.com/index.php?action=viewclan&clanid=5003)
- [xP] Old School Ballers (http://dplogin.com/index.php?action=viewclan&clanid=11823)
- [ x ] Team X (http://dplogin.com/index.php?action=viewclan&clanid=11810)
- >o.O< What The ____? (http://dplogin.com/index.php?action=viewclan&clanid=13049)
There are still 2 spots left in the European division.
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webhead, your links are just showing a blank page for me. Using Chrome btw..
Works fine now.
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- -aY- alcoholics annonymous (http://dplogin.com/index.php?action=viewclan&clanid=9769)
- -]SanC[- Inner Sanctum (http://dplogin.com/index.php?action=viewclan&clanid=13058)
Some of the members that were signed up for each team have either left or made a new clan. Might want to check and see if they have enough to participate anymore. I could be wrong.
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There are still 2 spots left in the European division.
Could you write here what clans have already signed up? I think that for example CzT will want to.
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shk u make a new clan every week.. so shht
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Well the teams in the league don't need to be dplogin based, but anyways ---
Shockwave: This is just reservations, this isn't set in stone. The members posted by teams is just to inform us for now, but since it's still reservation stage it's just making sure your team gets in.
Teams can still register even though the reservations are full incase a team has fallen apart since reserving their spot etc...
Abnormal: NA reservations: -aY- *STaRz* [ x ] >o.O< .Ij. [CC] [xP] -]SanC[- EURO reservations: [q] [kuc] .oXz. DaRk` [eX] [OVP]
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of course. i have now been set straight.
MyeRs: one thing tho. if the servers are set to require players to be logged in, and a player is wearing a tag of a clan which he's not a member of on dplogin, he'd get kicked.
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where are all the old NA teams.. i just know Ij cc and starz
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May Noblexity join also Beta team?
So no reservation is full :P.
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Second To None
#team_sTn (8/8)
Piter
MrPeach
Bjorn
Whe
Pysny
Adek33
Mocio
Nights
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Czech Team - <CzT>
(8/8)
#team_czech
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sarykov (39193) - Captain
Skorpion (37367)
Vasilij (58935)
HuRr1Can3 (21129)
prozajik (84931)
selda (29584)
Gunm@n (32055)
christik (29094)
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Edit 8.8.
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MyeRs: one thing tho. if the servers are set to require players to be logged in, and a player is wearing a tag of a clan which he's not a member of on dplogin, he'd get kicked.
There's no requirement to wear a tag. A funteam can register and if they wanted just add a name having a random tag. But as of now, 8 EU and 8 NA teams have reserved spots and I don't think any 'fun teams' were formed.
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So GL & HF.
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name: [QeHs]
tag: [q]
channel: #team_qehs
players and their IDs (8/8):
Magalhaes (5033)
Gamabunta (5219)
Sawy (5303)
Sphinx (5310)
Vouvos_Apeida (5429)
AndyCZ (20445)
Rewind (20637)
Stonecold (103649)
bold - team captain, underline - team vicecaptain
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Website: http://www.globalgamers.net/league (http://www.globalgamers.net/league)
Website is up, Register your teams so we can get this started :D Login with your IRC accountname and password.
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Change flag of clan Overpowered...we are proud Slovaks. Thx
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Change flag of clan Overpowered...we are proud Slovaks. Thx
Done. Sorry about that.
Who should I set as the clan leader? I need to pick someone so that you can start adding your players.
Speaking of which... I also need leaders for Starz, Ij, xP, Dark, kuc, and oxz.
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Webhead, ViciouZ, Butta, excellent work on the website. I totally envy your php skills. :(
either way, that website is baller,and makes me even more excited for the league.
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The PHP work was all done by ViciouZ and Butta -- I just learned the admin interface to get everything going.
(Also, if you'll notice, it wasn't all coded from scratch -- it's a script called KMleague.)
But thanks ;D
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[OTB] is in?
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[OTB] is in?
No, the teams playing are shown in the "Ranking" box in the bottom right of the main page. Other people have just been registering their teams for no apparent reason.
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My NickServ login no worky on this site.
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vic is having problems too.
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Week 1 of the league will either start August 15th or August 22nd. This depends on participation and on a few other things.
Update:
-Screenshot's of each map are no longer needed. The Ref is responsible to take a screenshot of each map and give to a league admin. This is to verify scores. Demo's of each player are still mandatory.
-All reserved teams must have their team set by Friday or teams who reserved to late get to take the spots. If you have problems with the website as it's not that user-friendly, msg Webhead/DPserv or Viciouz on IRC.
If you have any questions or whatnot about the league or formats msg MyeRs / Viciouz / Webhead / Gamabunta on IRC or post it in this thread. We'll keep it updated.
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[OTB] can play, if a team is missing for some reason. So i created a team.
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DaRk` Captain is Viper.
If that's his NickServ account name, then he's all set.
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So the 15th is in a few days.... Do we have any confirmation on whether or not it starts this weekend or next?
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So the 15th is in a few days.... Do we have any confirmation on whether or not it starts this weekend or next?
-All reserved teams must have their team set by Friday or teams who reserved to late get to take the spots. If you have problems with the website as it's not that user-friendly, msg Webhead/DPserv or Viciouz on IRC.
Basically we're still missing 4+ teams to register on the website. I'll modify or repost the teams to inform them later on tonight.
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That is, there are still that many *registered* teams that need to fill in their players.
Exz, Ij, xP, CzT, Dark, and sTn: PLEASE GET YOUR PLAYERS ENTERED ASAP.
StaRz, are you guys only entering 4 players?
Lastly, leaders for the following teams need to log in and hit the Sign up button as instructed on the home page:
Exz, Ij, xP, Dark, oXz.
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Webhead, could you let me know how to register as player? I tried it last week, but things didn't work. If I remember well I was also asked for a password. Where do we get this from? Is this the league key we got on dplogin?
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Most likely your team leader has not set a password. He can log in and click a button to link your account into the team -- but it looks like that's already been done and you've accepted the invite.
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-Screenshot's of each map are no longer needed. The Ref is responsible to take a screenshot of each map and give to a league admin. This is to verify scores. Demo's of each player are still mandatory.
Was the original intent of screenshots just to verify scores? If that was the case it may have also, inadvertently, been the best way to verify that people aren't using modified content. It would still be a good idea to get individual screenshots from people in my opinion. Not here to get in a fight or have a discussion. Just putting good logic out there.
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I assume the screenshots were just required for the scores. The new rule (ref making a screenshot of the score) is in my opinion a good alternative.
Furthermore I don't think a screenshot of the endscore will reveal any modified stuff. Even if people are using something nowadays, I hope they are smart enough to at least hide it on a screenshot at the end of the map. I fear requiring these screenshots will only end in endless discussions because someone forgot to take a screenshot. Let's trust the cheat detection system... :)
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Was the original intent of screenshots just to verify scores? If that was the case it may have also, inadvertently, been the best way to verify that people aren't using modified content. It would still be a good idea to get individual screenshots from people in my opinion. Not here to get in a fight or have a discussion. Just putting good logic out there.
I also thought it was originally meant to prevent modified content and thought this was a good idea. I suggest that the ref announces sometime in the match when each person should take a screen shot (in between rounds). Preferably within the first 5 minutes of the match, and if someone reconnects they must take another screenshot.
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Wont work Olbaid.
People could play with modified content, run their own demo afterwards with a legal content and then take a screenshot at just the point the referee wanted them to.
This is why screenshots would have been to be uploaded by some script immediately.
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If you guys saw earlier in the thread, I stated the screenshot's were to view textures. If it was to verify score, it would of only been 1 person per team. Right now it's to easy to fake a screenshot [like what Delphi just explained]. And since we couldn't get in contact with jitspoe and couldn't make a random screenshot script ourselves, we just decided to remove the forced screenshots. I mean, if somebody had modded content they wouldn't take it themself and give it in. We also did not want to abuse the committee's priviledges for the league.
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I know ways for forced ss's ;)
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Well try to have a committee member be a ref, and he can auto screenshot for everyone.
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On the website could you add biker as a member to ]SanC[
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On the website could you add biker as a member to ]SanC[
Your team leader can do that (which appears to be juiicy).
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Well try to have a committee member be a ref, and he can auto screenshot for everyone.
That'd put another thing under jitspoes belt, fishing them out :P.
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Week 1 of the league will either start August 15th or August 22nd. This depends on participation and on a few other things.
I guess the league will not start tomorrow?
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On the website could you add biker as a member to ]SanC[
Well about 2 days ago, MyeRs came into our channel on vent and asked if biker was going to participate in the league and biker said probably not. so.. I can add him but maybe to the "not active in the league" section? Unless he can play and changes his mind.
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Hi, guys!
Just letting you know that ButtaKnife and I are FINALLY back from QuakeCon. We're catching up on what webhead, ViciouZ, MyeRs, and Gama have been doing while we were absent, and we'll work through their list of issues asap to help this roll on. :)
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the league sounds great and all...i have only 1 problem with it. its not really helping or encouraging newer players, its more like keep the old-timers and 'pro's' entertained...
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what the intercourse... everyone couldve signed in so stop crying.
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the league sounds great and all...i have only 1 problem with it. its not really helping or encouraging newer players, its more like keep the old-timers and 'pro's' entertained...
newer players only care for speed server spray & pray, not for matches. their fault, not the organizers'
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the league sounds great and all...i have only 1 problem with it. its not really helping or encouraging newer players, its more like keep the old-timers and 'pro's' entertained...
a game needs to do both to be successful -- but the point of a league isn't to help new players: it's to provide a structured competition format for those who want to compete. and new players are probably more concerned with honing their gameplay rather than competing.
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alright relax its just a game.
newer players only care for speed server spray & pray, not for matches. their fault, not the organizers'
im a newer playing and i dont want that, i'd love to match but i never get the chance...
i understand exactly what the league is for and its really great that clans can match on a regular basis like that. the league sounds great and all...i have only 1 problem with it. its not really helping or encouraging newer players, its more like keep the old-timers and 'pro's' entertained...
i guess im just annoyed i have to stick to pubs.
good luck with the league. :)
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If you want to match, just get on IRC and try to join an active clan.
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ino i have but thers not that many active clans and the ones that are, are not suitable because i cant speak their language, so im kinda stuck for options. :-\
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Ah, I see. Can you speak any English at all, or must you use a translator for everything? If you can, don't care how little, join #team_cc and I will try and let you match with us sometimes. Hopefully your timezone isn't too big of a problem though.
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If you're talking about blindthing he's from England and he's probably +5/6 hours if you're West Coast.
I had the same problem you did since I'm Portuguese, so I just joined an american clan.
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If you're talking about blindthing he's from England and he's probably +5/6 hours if you're West Coast.
West coast would be +8 to england.
These teams still need to register their players:
Exz, Ij, xP, sTn.
Leaders for the following teams need to log in and hit the Sign up button as instructed on the home page:
Exz, Ij, xP, Dark.
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Have the reserves take their spots.
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Does it start tommorrow?
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By start we mean we announce the first match setups incase you didn't realize, but the match fixtures would be later on in the week. But this will probably keep getting pushed because people still wont go get their teams set on the website. I believe Exz died, so I think we're looking for 1 more NA team also.
EDIT: xP just informed me they will not be participating... so we need 2 NA teams now.
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I believe Exz died, so I think we're looking for 1 more NA team also.
It shouldn't matter if the clan died, you don't have to be in the same clan to be on the team
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It shouldn't matter if the clan died, you don't have to be in the same clan to be on the team
Well when most of their active members have/are joined/joining teams already in the league, you assume they're not playing with the team they signed up. Anyways - they told me they weren't playing, so 2 teams are needed.
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If you're talking about blindthing he's from England and he's probably +5/6 hours if you're West Coast.
I had the same problem you did since I'm Portuguese, so I just joined an american clan.
We already have one brit. I'm sure I can talk our notorious leader to give this blind kid a chance. I like the way he opens his mouth (no pun intended). What say you? I'll put it up to a vote.
On subject..... So we are now waiting on two more NA teams to sign up before the league starts?
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On subject..... So we are now waiting on two more NA teams to sign up before the league starts?
The match fixtures for the week will be announced tomorrow, if teams cannot make it they have to inform an admin ASAP for a rescheduled time. We're setting the empty spots as spares1 and spares2, then teams can take those spots by I believe Tuesday at the latest, then if spots are still empty they stay spares. So hopefully 2 teams can form and participate. I know of 1 team which is working on getting 2 teams together. Also - Europeans: Could you help us get in touch with sTn ? As of tomorrow their spot is up for grabs, well I guess as of today for Europeans.
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- The season part of the league will last 7 weeks, each team will play 1 game per week. More detailed information about this can be found at http://www.globalgamers.net/league/index.php?l=1&s=1&mod=article&view=details&no=1
- If a team notices they cannot have enough players for their scheduled time, they must contact a league admin as soon as possible. The admin will talk with their opponents to try to find a more suitable time. If no time is reached both teams will receive 1 point for that week's game. IF the team did not inform an admin soon enough that their team could not make that time, the admin will still attempt to help find a better time, but since it was too late that team would receive a loss.
- Like a normal match, you must win 2 maps to win the match. However, you get a point per map won. Which means you can lose the match and receive 1 point.
- Each team must choose their map from the map pool, the same map can be chosen twice if both teams want it. The referee will msg the team leader from each team/or team Captain if the leader is absent asking for the team's map prior to the start. This way, it doesn't matter whose map is first because the maps are already known. Tiemap is predetermined. To see the complete maplist view: http://www.globalgamers.net/league/index.php?l=1&s=1&mod=article&view=details&no=2
- The timezone we're going with for NA is Eastern timezone - For European it is GMT+1
- The servers being used for NA are x/GGDPL Private servers - For European is Global Gamers League #1/2 . All league games must be played on the league servers!
- The match fixtures can be found here: http://globalgamers.net/league/index.php?l=1&s=1&mod=match&view=schedule
Note
- 2 NA teams are still missing. 1 Euro team's spot is up for grabs as sTn has not put their team on the website. MSG an admin to enter your team.
- We're still looking for 2/3 European referees and 1 NA referee.
- Demo's are still mandatory, every demo[no matter how many reconnects] Use: http://www.banterous.co.uk for demo uploads.
- As of tuesday squad modifications and teams joining the league are closed. Changes after that will only be possible during one or two select weeks in the season.
If you have any other questions/concerns msg an admin in #dpleague
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= Sandassult ?
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[ b ] have 3-4 active members if u need an NA clan
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= Sandassult ?
Yeh it's Sandassult. There was a few other typos in the list that I'll post once I have the time to check it.
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- Like a normal match, you must win 2 maps to win the match. However, you get a point per map won. Which means you can lose the match and receive 1 point.
That's a nice mode, good choice :) I'm a little bit confused atm though. Does this mean that a 2:0 and a 2:1 is nearly the same for the winner team, but not the same for the looser team? Not 3 points for a 2:0?
2:0 - 2 points
2:1 - 2 points
1:2 - 1 point
0:2 - 0 points
Btw., are there entity files for the maps now?
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For every map you win, you get 1 point, meaning 2:0 and 2:1 gives you 2 points, but the later gives 1 point to your opponent.
As for .ent files, the only ones we have are:
castle1.ent
shazam22.ent
If you have any other entity files that improve gameplay, we would be thankful to have them shared.
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Thank you!
I could make some more files...
But I don't know what improvements the admins would like to see. Just some changes for fairness or more generall changes like guns, items, flags, new entities (p.a. flags, spawnpoints), league message, etc.?
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[ b ] have 3-4 active members if u need an NA clan
Awesome. Come on IRC and we'll set it up on the website.
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- The timezone we're going with for NA is Eastern timezone - For European it is GMT+1
We decided it's GMT+1 including summer time, so this means all times listed on webiste are current for Germany, Czech Rep, Slovakia and Poland (unless I mixed something up).
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Awesome. Come on IRC and we'll set it up on the website.
or, shep, you can set it up yourself on the site -- at which point i would add you into the schedule.
Yeh it's Sandassult. There was a few other typos in the list that I'll post once I have the time to check it.
well it should be "assault". "assult" is not a word. :P I say rename the bsp.
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Upcoming week, being the second week of GGDPLeague Season 1, is "free agent" time. Team captains may swap/add players that weren't part of other teams playing in the league. You have until midnight of Saturday, September 4th. Choose your players well and let your changes be changes for better!
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Upcoming week, being the second week of GGDPLeague Season 1, is "free agent" time. Team captains may swap/add players that weren't part of other teams playing in the league. You have until midnight of Saturday, September 4th. Choose your players well and let your changes be changes for better!
Nice. How about also free access to the matches for player ID's over 120000, or something like that? Or slots 9 & 10 on a team are open to players over 120000, and can be changed regularly? If new players got to watch matches and ask questions to the observers on both teams, it would help them out a lot, and probably get them more active in the match scene too if they're interested.
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Nice. How about also free access to the matches for player ID's over 120000, or something like that? Or slots 9 & 10 on a team are open to players over 120000, and can be changed regularly? If new players got to watch matches and ask questions to the observers on both teams, it would help them out a lot, and probably get them more active in the match scene too if they're interested.
Perhaps they won't know what's going on and they will just want to play.. They will see many people on the server so they will try to join.
Can be abused, as well.
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Can be abused, as well.
true, older users could get in on matches by creating a multi, i suppose.
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Perhaps they won't know what's going on and they will just want to play.. They will see many people on the server so they will try to join.
Can be abused, as well.
true, older users could get in on matches by creating a multi, i suppose.
True. then maybe just allow spectator mode to new players, and give them the rules first. If they do something wrong then temp-ban them from the match. I'm sure it'd be a legit reason to give ref's enough ops during the league to temp-ban someone.
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I'm sure it'd be a legit reason to give ref's enough ops during the league to temp-ban someone.
refs already have enough ops for that. ;)
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Then that could be a good way for new players to see how our match scene plays and what it's like, the best advertisement would be to ask Jitspoe to make a 'News' post advertising the GlobalGamers Tourney, and that any new players to the game are welcome to come watch any matches of the tournament. Then link to the scheduled matches, observer rules, and to a #dpleague irc chat so they can ask to come in and watch.
Although it would take more details to get it all to work correctly, but it wouldn't hurt to try something like that for a couple weeks during this tournament to see if it gathers any interest of new players.
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thats cool
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Then that could be a good way for new players to see how our match scene plays and what it's like, the best advertisement would be to ask Jitspoe to make a 'News' post advertising the GlobalGamers Tourney, and that any new players to the game are welcome to come watch any matches of the tournament. Then link to the scheduled matches, observer rules, and to a #dpleague irc chat so they can ask to come in and watch.
Although it would take more details to get it all to work correctly, but it wouldn't hurt to try something like that for a couple weeks during this tournament to see if it gathers any interest of new players.
I agree, how's about when you first open up Paintball, a little "pop-up" appears stating everything you said. But wouldn't this require a new build? If it does, we should probably wait till the next season of the league starts.
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I agree, how's about when you first open up Paintball, a little "pop-up" appears stating everything you said. But wouldn't this require a new build? If it does, we should probably wait till the next season of the league starts.
Hmm, something tells me a feature like this has been previously suggested... like an in-game news flash thing that only shows unread news items, that jitspoe would control.
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This week, being the 4th week of GGDPLeague Season 1, is another "free agent" week, this is the last time during this league that teams will be able to modify their rosters. Team captains may swap/add players that weren't part of other teams playing in the league. You have until midnight of Saturday, September 18th. Choose your players well and let your changes be changes for better!
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Team X has 1 spot available to play with us in the league. Message me here or on IRC (ricochet - #team_x) if you are looking for a team to play with. We are not that picky, and like to have fun. I'll try to get back to you as soon as possible.
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Team X has 1 spot available to play with us in the league. Message me here or on IRC (ricochet - #team_x) if you are looking for a team to play with. We are not that picky, and like to have fun. I'll try to get back to you as soon as possible.
Anyone is welcome to apply. Heck, it might even lead to a new friendships. Please keep in mind we try to keep all our teammates feelings into consideration when choosing someone to become part of our society. Chalk would prefer a someone around 17-19 with muscles bigger than skadoosh's. Adias would like someone with possible blonde hair with east European heritage but resides in North America. Nub is fine with anyone as long as their hair is curlier than his. Webhead just would like someone who is NOT virtual. Last but not least, Viciouz would like to be able to nickname the new person "Lenin".
*forgot primo, he just wants someone who plays more often than him.
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close match against darkness somebody info me in sauna priv
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Anyone is welcome to apply. Heck, it might even lead to a new friendships. Please keep in mind we try to keep all our teammates feelings into consideration when choosing someone to become part of our society. Chalk would prefer a someone around 17-19 with muscles bigger than skadoosh's. Adias would like someone with possible blonde hair with east European heritage but resides in North America. Nub is fine with anyone as long as their hair is curlier than his. Webhead just would like someone who is NOT virtual. Last but not least, Viciouz would like to be able to nickname the new person "Lenin".
*forgot primo, he just wants someone who plays more often than him.
Lol!ol!Ol!OlOL1ol!LO!lO!lO!l!OlO!lL!OL!
and did i mention .... ROFL! ;D ;D ;D ;D
That was hilarious. (because it's all true.)
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I <3 meh team!!!
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PLAYOFFS
The playoffs will take place Saturday the 16th, and 23rd of this month. The 16th will consist of all 8 teams playing in the quarter finals. The 23rd will consist of the winning 4 playing in the semi finals, as well as the finals right after. Teams can change 'times' if both teams agree, but they cannot change the dates for the 23rd, matches on the 16th can be changed if both teams agree and inform an admin of the switch to ensure ref's and server availability. We're hoping to have Jehar streaming most of the playoffs.
Each team will choose their map from the map pool given; which is based off all the tie maps from the season. If a tie map is needed, the teams will use the process of elimination to decide the tie map.
Each team plays their map on their server, and the tie will be on the server of the team that ranked higher in the season.
MAPLIST (Could be subject to small changes)
- Pbcup_sassault
- Pbcup_Pforest
- Propaint1
- Nml
- Shazam22
- Oth
- Castle1
QUARTER-FINAL MATCHES
1 EU vs 4 NA - oXMoZe .oXz. vs Inner Sanctum -]SanC[-
2 EU vs 3 NA - Noblexity [eX] vs Allstarz *STaRz*
3 EU vs 2 NA - Kicking Ugly Children [Kuc] vs College Court [CC]
4 EU vs 1 NA - Overpowered [OVP] vs What The ____? >o.O<
TIMES
oXz vs -]SanC[- --> 1pm EST / 19:00 CEST (UTC+2)
[eX] vs *STaRz* --> 1pm EST / 19:00 CEST (UTC+2)
[kuc] vs [CC] --> 2pm EST / 20:00 CEST (UTC+2) -- Could be slightly delayed.
[OVP] vs >o.O< --> 2pm EST / 20:00 CEST (UTC+2) -- Could be slightly delayed.
Season Rankings (Eu and NA combined)
1- oXMoZe
2- Noblexity
3- What The ____?
4- College Court
5- Kicking Ugly Children
6- Allstarz
7- Inner Sanctum
8- Overpowered
Player Stats
Congratulations to the following for having the top 3 individual player stats during the 7 weeks of the season.
1. [CC]Olbaid -- Kills: 88 - Deaths: 23
2. >o.O<MyeRs -- Kills: 291 - Deaths: 183
3. >o.O<CheMiCaL -- Kills: 273 - Deaths: 174
See full listing here: http://www.globalgamers.net/league/index.php?l=1&s=1&mod=stats&view=players
EDIT: Clarified rules on 'date changing'
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Teams can change 'times' if both teams agree, but they cannot change the dates.
Good job, well I won't be playing at all, way to pick the weekends for people who have lives.
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most people who play this game go to school/work and dont come home till around 3-4pm, and if the playoffs were held during the week, im sure it wouldnt work out well because if a game was scheduled for 5pm US time, then that would be around midnight for euros so.. :\
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look who your talking to. Its Myers. Pulling a 24/7 like shk.
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shut up.... you're on cs more then anyone is on dp... from what your cs friends said. LOL
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Well the league times sucked for me as well but that is what it is. Maybe the next one will be more team oriented and allow us the chance to schedule times that work for each team playing instead of having someone who isn't even playing dictate the time and day.
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Well the league times sucked for me as well but that is what it is. Maybe the next one will be more team oriented and allow us the chance to schedule times that work for each team playing instead of having someone who isn't even playing dictate the time and day.
+1
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Well the league times sucked for me as well but that is what it is. Maybe the next one will be more team oriented and allow us the chance to schedule times that work for each team playing instead of having someone who isn't even playing dictate the time and day.
There were so many leagues with the rules you say and there are only troubles with it always.. One team says that he doesn't time this date and the second one doesn't have time the next time.. Then the whole league is delayed as hell and noones interested in at all, because they think it's all because of the admins..
I didn't have time in more than 50% matches either, but hey.. I don't give a s**t. I'm not the only one who's playin..
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best idea to do them on saturday :D lol wtf... o well dont think kuc is able to play then.
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Good job, well I won't be playing at all, way to pick the weekends for people who have lives.
+1
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well im pretty sure weekdays wouldn't work out for euros playing americans/canadians... so be quiet and stop complaining
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Well I'm pretty sure weekends will not either =( just saying cause *STaRz* never matchs on weekends =/
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that would be starz' problem. :)
actually I think the scheduling issue will not be that hard to solve for next season. we already have some ideas about changes for next time.
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Next time? :/ But this time didn't even finished yet, so why isn't it just solved now?
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Next time? :/ But this time didn't even finished yet, so why isn't it just solved now?
This league is a trial, and we track what ideas worked well and which not so much. So for following leagues we can accommodate to more people. Now, this 'saturday sucks' issue, It's euros vs americans, just like most '1 day tournaments' they occur on saturday's to work for the timezones. We've stated you can move the quarter finals if both teams agree, but if you can't make the semis/finals the following saturday that really sucks but it's not moving. But, if your enjoying your life that whole saturday you shouldn't need to complain on here, because you've got a life. You've got up to 8 in your team, i'm sure 3 can make it. If not, it's just a dp2 league with a prize if you make the finals.
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But, if your enjoying your life that whole saturday you shouldn't need to complain on here, because you've got a life.
Haha you're right. Sucks for you, I'll be out fishing, much more rewarding! :) Almost makes me feel bad for the people playing on weekends, 'almost' having a 'whole' Saturday of life, while I have a full 'whole' Saturday of life. lol check out that grammar!!!
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Haha you're right. Sucks for you, I'll be out fishing, much more rewarding! :) Almost makes me feel bad for the people playing on weekends, 'almost' having a 'whole' Saturday of life, while I have a full 'whole' Saturday of life. lol check out that grammar!!!
ye, you keep repeating that you have a life a lot... must be true.
Anyway, I think playing on the saturdays is the only way. It is not possible to have euros play americans on other days.
Good job on keeping the league going, will be interesting to watch some games tonight. If there are some streams?
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Good job on keeping the league going, will be interesting to watch some games tonight. If there are some streams?
We're hoping to have Jehar streaming most of the playoffs, he told us that he'll try to work it into his schedule.
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haha how someone (m*ers) cares so much about some dp league :D lol and how hard it is for hiim to realize that 90% people have better things to on saturday than play dp2
Good luck kuc if someone will play, out now bye.
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haha how someone (m*ers) cares so much about some dp league :D lol and how hard it is for hiim to realize that 90% people have better things to on saturday than play dp2
I understand people have better things to do on a saturday, but everyone got upset when PBCup was 'No euros because timezone it causes so many more difficulties with timezones and servers' so we found a way to work it so we get both Euro and NA in the league, this means when they cross over the divisions we need a day that can accommodate both. We didn't allow crossovers during the season because we wanted to avoid weekends, but now it's the only day that will work. Americans cannot get on early enough during weekdays without making europeans stay on till midnight or later. So if you have so much 'better things' to do on saturdays, you should not care that you forfeited the quarters, and shouldn't take the time to post about it on forums. You also shouldn't start raging about it afterwards or reply to this post.
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Did any of the saturday matches go off?
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Did any of the saturday matches go off?
Yep, there was 2 played matches, and 2 forfeits.
oXz beat SanC --- SanC members left after being down 30-3 on OTH.
eX beat StaRz --- Only 1 StaRz member showed, so it was a forfeit.
CC beat Kuc --- Kuc had 2 at the starting time, but 1 of them disapeared, so it was a forfeit.
o.O beat OVP --- o.O won 2-0
The Semi finals and the finals information and matchups should be posted later today.
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so cool to win league when half the teams forfeit =)
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so cool to win league when half the teams forfeit =)
It's only the game. Everyone can't be still happy..
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so cool to win league when half the teams forfeit =)
lol
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Hopefully by now people realize Saturdays are the dates of the playoffs. Saturday 23rd of October will be the semi finals as well as the finals. The semi finals are able to be rescheduled to anytime BEFORE the scheduled time.
MATCHUPS:
.oXz. vs [CC] --> 1pm EST / 19:00 CEST (UTC+2) -- Server advantage goes to .oXz.
[eX] vs >o.O< --> 1pm EST / 19:00 CEST (UTC+2) -- Server advantage goes to [eX]
Finals will be at 2pm EST / 20:00 CEST (UTC+2) -- This could be slightly delayed.
If teams agree to rescheduling, msg a league admin to inform them of the change.
NOTE: So, all the people complaining about the timings of the but if you look back at the most recent PBCup attempt, the euros complained about not being included, yet the problems were stated numerous times why they did not want to include euros. Now, we've got Europeans and Americans and of course there's the same problems but we tried to accommodate them as well as possible, which started by not crossing over divisions until playoffs so we could avoid weekends. We had 1 weekend game scheduled during this entire league and look at the rage it caused. Euro vs NA isn't possible to run without using weekends, so just a question - Would it be better to not merge Euro and NA leagues for future reference? This means you'd get 8-10 teams tops, instead of 16-20. It takes out a lot of competition too. After the league is finished we will have a thread to post what went well and what didn't go so well for future reference.
Goodluck to the teams playing in the semi's!
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Everyone has a life, some people have time to play on the weekends, some people have time during the week. If you can't make a match..OH WELL. It's not the end of the world and it's not biased scheduling against you. There is a good reason for the Saturday matches (time differences). Can you think of a better time to play NA vs Euro?
I personally think that the 2 teams playing should be able to schedule their matches at the beginning of the week for a day/time that suits both as opposed to predetermined times (for next season).
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Would it be better to not merge Euro and NA leagues for future reference? This means you'd get 8-10 teams tops, instead of 16-20. It takes out a lot of competition too.
But ya'll didn't even cross leagues until semi-s. There was no extra matches in the league because of them being merged. Why make it harder to schedule everything by crossing leagues if it doesn't even add extra matches to the leagues? (Yes, it meant 1 extra match in the semi's, but only 2 out of 8 teams played it)
-That 1 extra match from merging leagues didn't add any competition, but killed it since only 25% of the teams played the merged matches. If you're real goal is to see 'who's the best between Euro and American', then let each league play until there's 1 team each, then that team plays as 'representative' from their continent. That way they can schedule their own final match, and not be forced to play at certain times. Which I still don't see why this current league is forced to play at a certain time if they can agree to their own schedule.
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Which I still don't see why this current league is forced to play at a certain time if they can agree to their own schedule.
Every game besides the finals has had the ability to be rescheduled if both teams agreed. Teams were able to change if they could agree. And 2 of 8 teams finished a match, but 6 of 8 teams showed up with a team. The 2 that couldn't form a team had 1 person from their team online.
We avoided Euro/NA during the season due to the fact of timezones/scheduling, so we made it so the top 4 from Euro and top 4 from NA get into the playoffs, which is the cross over. Teams were able to reschedule and didn't. I don't see why people find it to be the fault of those running the league rather then themselves for waiting until last minute to try to reschedule.
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If you're real goal is to see 'who's the best between Euro and American', then let each league play until there's 1 team each, then that team plays as 'representative' from their continent. That way they can schedule their own final match, and not be forced to play at certain times.
Lovin' that idea.
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Myers shut ur bundle of twigs mouth. if i remember right it was something like this : Sklenda : hey can we play some other time if cc agrees? Kid(myers) : sorry u couldve if asked few mins earlier =)(/(()(/()=O) IUJF
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Keep it civilized and keep the topic about feedback without personal attacks. If you can not I will ban the first person to act a fool and then toss a lock on the topic and only open it up for Myers to post updates.
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This is is no means meant to be an attack of any sort, incase somebody views it as that. This is simply just pointing out something for all Kuc members:
As seen by the times, its about 1 hour and 20 minutes before the scheduled match --
[11:43] <flavor> maierz if youre here plz get CC not to match, #kuc can=S
[12:02] <MyeRs> We had it posted on like monday saying to talk to the teams if you can't make it... we'll try our best, but we can't guarantee anything.
[12:02] <flavor> ok sure:) ty
I did my part, as I told Flavor, and I msg'd CC team captain Olbaid:
[12:18] <MyeRs> kuc wants to move the match, but as said both teams must agree. If you guys don't agree, then you still must have 3 by the time and if kuc can't get their team they'd forfeit the quarters.
[12:18] <Olbaid> they wait till now to ask
[12:19] <Olbaid> meddling dumb
[12:20] <Olbaid> we would have rescheduled if they asked us earlier
There was a full work-week chance to move the match, and CC was more then willing to attempt to find a new time providing you guys request early enough. They didn't want to reschedule after showing up for the scheduled match. I can't force another team to move the match, I just asked them and they refused since it was very late notice. But I'd like to know how YOU would've done euro vs american, including West-coasters, which means the time difference can be up to 10 hours. We set the time and allowed teams to switch providing both teams agree on the time. Don't worry, we'll tweak ideas for the future leagues/cups so feel free to voice your opinion in a 'non-personal-attack' way.
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LOLOLOLLOOLLOLOLOLOLO rocky = kid a fat one too
User banned for this post.
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LOLOLOLLOOLLOLOLOLOLO rocky = kid a fat one too
:/ Good job closing y'alls own topic to prevent debate from your own decisions on how the league is run... :| Called it once fl1p threatened it! :P
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Just a fast update, a more detailed one will either be posted here later or on the GG website.
Semi Finals Results:
oXz vs CC
OTH - oXz wins
Propaint1 - CC wins
Shazam22 - oXz Wins
eX vs o.O
Pbcup_pforest - o.O wins
OTH - o.O wins
Finals Results:
oXz vs o.O
Shazam22 - o.O wins
Pbcup_pforest - o.O wins
RANKINGS:
1) What The ____?
2) oXMoZe
3) College Court
4) NobleXity
5) Kicking Ugly Children
6) Allstarz
7) Inner Sanctum
8) Overpowered
9) 21st Century
10) Czech Team
11) Darkness
12) Team X
13) QeHs
14) Psycho Ballers
15) Only The Best
16) Global Gamers
Player stats will be updated once all screenshots are submitted, as well as all the match information.
Thanks to Jehar; for streaming the Semi-Finals/Finals, ButtaKnife/LoreOfSerpents; for organizing the league and getting european servers and supplying prizes, the teams; for participating and showing up each week, the refs; for sitting bored in a server just making sure things workout, Webhead; for buying/running servers and helping with the website, and everyone else who contributed. We'll be making a thread eventually asking for criticism on this league, what went well and what should be changed for future leagues. Thanks!
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First off, thank you to everyone who participated in the league! It was quite an interesting learning experience for us, and hopefully you guys were able to have fun in the mean time.
Congratulations to the teams that made it to the finals! I'll be contacting prize winners as soon as I can to get that squared away, so don't worry. :)