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Fairness Enforcement => Cheater Reports and Bans => Topic started by: jitspoe on July 09, 2007, 01:13:09 PM

Title: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: jitspoe on July 09, 2007, 01:13:09 PM
Names used: [C]Term1[C], Term1-Eating, Term1, PapaWheelie, Penis
IP: 198.53.136.95 = d198-53-136-95.abhsia.telus.net
Cheat: Zaltekk ZGH
Servers and dates:
2007-07-09 03:49:06   85.214.56.218:44444   [OTB] Match 2 - www.OTB-Clan.de
2007-07-09 00:38:14   69.93.11.66:27913   GRaFFiTi PainT ={Pub 3}=
2007-07-08 22:49:16   69.93.11.66:27913   GRaFFiTi PainT ={Pub 3}=
2007-07-08 17:40:05   69.93.11.66:27912   GRaFFiTi PainT ={PuB 2}=
2007-07-06 21:04:03   70.85.9.178:27922   [aB] clan server
2007-07-06 11:24:43   69.93.11.66:27913   GRaFFiTi PainT ={Pub 3}=
2007-07-05 16:51:18   69.93.11.66:27913   GRaFFiTi PainT ={Pub 3}=

I did an IP check, and it is indeed Termin8oR's IP, but since he was using the ZGH client, he couldn't log in and had to use alternative names.  I thought the GT match servers required logins.  Maybe that setting has been changed.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: Termin8oR on July 09, 2007, 01:28:21 PM
This is not true because i was playing logged in with [CC]Bix and didnt have any problems, but when i tried to join a match server it said Temp-Banned.
I was matching with the clan today with build 19 while logged in.

This is not making any sense to me.
I will allow a PC search to prove i dont have hacks of any kind.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: dystro on July 09, 2007, 01:34:14 PM
i don't see any GT match servers listed there in the detection, just public servers, aside from the one otb match server.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: Olbaid on July 09, 2007, 01:34:34 PM
Great job, champ..  Should have never let you back in the other day..
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: iEATnoobs on July 09, 2007, 01:36:32 PM
CC hax again. Guess you cant call ij the hacking clan anymore.  :-\
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: jitspoe on July 09, 2007, 01:52:34 PM
i don't see any GT match servers listed there in the detection, just public servers, aside from the one otb match server.
My bad.  This stuff all starts running together after a while.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: DaRkNeSS on July 09, 2007, 04:34:46 PM
Typical Termin8or.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: coLa on July 09, 2007, 04:55:42 PM
lmao. he talked excrement about me quiting CC then he got kicked and now he hacked. lmao.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: loial21 on July 09, 2007, 11:36:28 PM
Termi,
Why were you logged into Bix + you cheated?

You know the respect I have for you and you know I forgive you personally. But why this? Pm or IM if you feel the need :)
 
Jitspoe,
Exactly why does you dection not kick people live?

Thank you for the dection.

A bad day for loial.


Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: y00tz on July 09, 2007, 11:38:58 PM
Termi,
Why were you logged into Bix + you cheated?

I read it as 'I was logged in (as Termi?) AND I was playing with Bix"

Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: loial21 on July 09, 2007, 11:40:53 PM
Thank you. I was about to be double pissed off.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: y00tz on July 09, 2007, 11:45:14 PM
I could be wrong though  :-\

Quote from: jitspoe link=topic=7580.msg81903#msg81903
since he was using the ZGH client, he couldn't log in and had to use alternative names.

This is not true because i was playing logged in with [CC]Bix and didnt have any problems

I don't know.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: Termin8oR on July 10, 2007, 12:08:57 AM
No i was logged in under my account and was playing with Bix.

I never hacked and this is a huge misunderstanding and is being blown out of proportion for no reason.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: SkateR on July 10, 2007, 12:42:11 AM
You clearly did. Maybe someone installed them while you were mowing your lawn. Who knows?

On a serious note, Loial, why would you forgive him for hacking? Why not forgive everyone else including me?

On another serious note, cheat detection should kick players from servers as loial said.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: loial21 on July 10, 2007, 02:22:57 AM
As a personal note i forgive all.


Dummass.

*stupid donkey being me.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: WarWulf on July 10, 2007, 12:49:13 PM
heh

\o. HACK THE PLANET!

funny no one has ever caught me cheating :)


termi you seemed like such a nice person one of the last people id expect to be cheating.


better hope sandman doesnt find out and if he does i hope he whoops you with a wooden paddle :)

Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: jitspoe on July 10, 2007, 02:13:31 PM
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On another serious note, cheat detection should kick players from servers as loial said.

I've explained this many times - if I kick people live, it makes it far too easy for people to test cheats and find out if they're detectable or not.  Also, there's the potential for false positives, malicious servers, and other things that could cause people to be banned incorrectly if it were an automated process.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: Termin8oR on July 10, 2007, 04:20:53 PM
That is what happened to me.
I finished playing a pub server and went to join a match server and got temp-banned for nothing.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: jitspoe on July 10, 2007, 04:49:50 PM
No, what happened to you was I reviewed the cheat detection logs, found you using ZGH multiple times, and added you to the global ban list.  Auto-banning doesn't even exist, so you're not coming up with very good excuses.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: Spook on July 10, 2007, 04:58:56 PM
lol shutdown.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: SkateR on July 10, 2007, 05:14:09 PM
Quote
On another serious note, cheat detection should kick players from servers as loial said.

I've explained this many times - if I kick people live, it makes it far too easy for people to test cheats and find out if they're detectable or not.  Also, there's the potential for false positives, malicious servers, and other things that could cause people to be banned incorrectly if it were an automated process.

Ok. Make it so next time they connect to a server they're global banned? You seem to not check the hack review list all too often, maybe give someone else some access to it?
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: y00tz on July 10, 2007, 11:39:23 PM
Ok. Make it so next time they connect to a server they're global banned?

That won't change the fact that someone can realize they didn't get kicked, thus their hacks aren't being found, and they can hack without fear... and even worse, spread around these undetectable hacks.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: SkateR on July 11, 2007, 11:07:50 AM
Either way, if its undetectable they arent going to get caught. I don't see where you're going with your point but ok. I know if I were to make a hack and see that I haven't been caught by looking on the forums once a day then whatever. I don't see how thats better than you loading a hack via in game and it banning you right there.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: Matze on July 11, 2007, 11:08:47 AM
edit: Talking about yootz' post.

That statement might be correct, but if someone really wanted to hack, he'd try a new hack, wait for like 1-2 week(s) and would also know that those hacks he is using are undetactable.

Of course I don't know about technical problems ;)
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: lekky on July 11, 2007, 01:23:27 PM
or go to the library or a family members to try it, "ahah, banned, i'll not use that at home then."
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: y00tz on July 11, 2007, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: Matze link=topic=7580.msg82405#msg82405 date=118417372
That statement might be correct, but if someone really wanted to hack, he'd try a new hack, wait for like 1-2 week(s) and would also know that those hacks he is using are undetactable.

But in the meantime, while Jits is writing code that can detect it, the hacker is distrubiting it.   Instead of one day a hacker logging on and getting kicked then informing people, everyone is caught via the secret detection stuff.

Not flawless, just a stall.


or go to the library or a family members to try it, "ahah, banned, i'll not use that at home then."


Yet another reason to have sv_login 2 :D :D
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: PainKe on July 11, 2007, 01:40:53 PM
You clearly did. Maybe someone installed them while you were mowing your lawn. Who knows?

He was outside, cutting grass ;D
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: lekky on July 11, 2007, 02:31:35 PM
i have a gardener... and he did it =D =D
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: jitspoe on July 11, 2007, 04:08:33 PM
Many people "test" the cheats before they use them actively.  Termi was playing under the name "Penis" when he first started using the cheat.  If the ban was automated and immediate, it would ban on a name nobody knew or cared about.  By waiting a bit and manually reviewing the data, I was able to determine exactly who it was and ban a relatively well known player.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: XtremeBain on July 11, 2007, 04:55:44 PM
By waiting a bit and manually reviewing the data, I was able to determine exactly who it was and ban a relatively well known player.

Entrapment.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: lekky on July 11, 2007, 05:38:25 PM
I don't see how thats entrapment at all. Unless Jitspoe actually made and distributed the cheats himself -.-
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: y00tz on July 11, 2007, 11:05:55 PM
I think XBain forgot his <sarcasm> tags...
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: jitspoe on December 30, 2009, 11:42:33 PM
Names used:
.vF|Termi
DonkeyPunch

IP's:
75.152.165.226 = d75-152-165-226.abhsia.telus.net
205.206.129.246 = d205-206-129-246.abhsia.telus.net
209.89.240.229 = d209-89-240-229.abhsia.telus.net
75.152.161.73 = d75-152-161-73.abhsia.telus.net

DPLogin ID: 5254

Second offense ban.  128 days unless he comes clean.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: Termin8oR on January 03, 2010, 12:36:31 AM
Reason I used ratbot: tired of playing this game in general.

I'll take my 128 day ban and Ill see you guys in May 2010, might want to play again then.

Peace.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: Justinph5 on January 03, 2010, 12:56:09 AM
do people really not know how to find the uninstall button???

When people say "I wanted to quit the game" I'd rather vote that they get permanent bans...
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: Termin8oR on January 03, 2010, 01:47:39 AM
do people really not know how to find the uninstall button???

When people say "I wanted to quit the game" I'd rather vote that they get permanent bans...


You can always re-install the game, defeats the purpose of uninstalling it.
A permanent ban wouldn't be bad either.
This games community has gone down drastically over the years and not a darn thing can bring it back.

Thanks DP2 team, might see you around another day in the future.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: blaa on January 03, 2010, 02:07:34 AM
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This games community has gone down drastically over the years and not a darn thing can bring it back.

wrong
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: dp4lyfe on January 03, 2010, 02:19:44 AM
Wow how could you termi??:((( later bro
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: atmays on January 03, 2010, 04:09:14 AM
This games community has gone down drastically over the years and not a darn thing can bring it back.

Correct
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: b00nlander on January 03, 2010, 04:37:31 AM
have to agree with Termi and atmays :(
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: mewa on January 03, 2010, 07:19:12 PM
Reason I used ratbot: tired of playing this game in general.

I'll take my 128 day ban and Ill see you guys in May 2010, might want to play again then.

Peace.

most nonsensical comment ever.....

you got tired of playing a game after "x" years, so instead of just being a man and walking away from it, you decided to exploit it and degrade it.


This games community has gone down drastically over the years and not a darn thing can bring it back.

when theres so many members of the community who walk and talk just like you, maybe its true.

running around saying "game is free. game is old. game is excrement. i cant stop playing excrement old free game, so i hack to undermine excrement old free game. then people think i dont care about excrement old free game and that i actually have willpower. termi = gud, dp2 = ded"

 two birds, no stones.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: Justinph5 on January 03, 2010, 10:05:33 PM
"game is free. game is old. game is excrement. i cant stop playing excrement old free game, so i hack to undermine excrement old free game. then people think i dont care about excrement old free game and that i actually have willpower."
Can't say it any better.
Title: Re: Cheat Detected: Termin8oR
Post by: JiGSaW on January 06, 2010, 01:15:08 PM
Wow how could you termi??:((( later bro

Chuckled.