Author Topic: Feature request: impact of objects (Read 7039 times)

MiZ · « **on:** May 25, 2008, 11:53:07 AM »

As you recall in my last feature vote request for pg2, many people of the comunity said the game needs to have realism, and it wasn't that real.So I'm going to try to have requests based on realism in the game.My first one: impact of objects.Maybe we could an impact of an object when for example a paintball hits it.In real life there's some type of impact when a paintball hits a crate or something, maybe like a crack or a piece falling off.Also when a player jumps on a crate, maybe the crate could have an impact.I was wondering if we could have this in the game to make it more real, knowing that we already don't have it.

Edit: does this tie together with prop physics?

Zorchenhimer · « **Reply #1 on:** May 25, 2008, 12:06:03 PM »

Maybe a little particle animation when the paintball hits something?

i_am_a_pirate · « **Reply #2 on:** May 25, 2008, 12:10:03 PM »

Quote from: Zorchenhimer on May 25, 2008, 12:06:03 PM

Maybe a little particle animation when the paintball hits something?

That would be hard to implement because to make it look good it has to be random and progressive.

I like the idea, though.

Or we could have something where the paintball hits something, and instead of just splatting as it usually does, it releases paint particles (not wood, metal, etc.). That would be much easier to do.. Or would it.

Or is that what you were suggesting, zorch?

MiZ · « **Reply #3 on:** May 25, 2008, 12:10:09 PM »

Yeah that particle animation could work with the paintballs too, similar to the pieces falling off the crate.

i_am_a_pirate · « **Reply #4 on:** May 25, 2008, 12:15:32 PM »

Then the engine has to calculate what surface it's hitting, whereabouts, and lots of other stuff + randomly generate random particles to randomly fly off in a random direction... random

ViciouZ · « **Reply #5 on:** May 25, 2008, 02:26:29 PM »

There are particle animations... little blobs when paint hits a wall?

Since when did paintballs break crates?

This would also need a whole new particle engine.

I am doing something similar in a game I am developing, but that's for when shells hit mud/wood/concrete.

Zorchenhimer · « **Reply #6 on:** May 25, 2008, 02:51:06 PM »

i_am_a_pirate, you're over complicating it.

Make a model, make it animate, and give it a dynamic color. The model will be all the particles from that splat.

i_am_a_pirate · « **Reply #7 on:** May 25, 2008, 03:26:35 PM »

okay, but does it vary from surface to surface? Because if you have custom textures, then woohey you've got a complicated what-gee-mah-call-it

Zorchenhimer · « **Reply #8 on:** May 25, 2008, 03:54:57 PM »

Walls don't fall apart when you shoot them with paintballs...

Eiii · « **Reply #9 on:** May 25, 2008, 04:52:45 PM »

...which is an excellent excuse to add func_explosion back in.

Zorchenhimer · « **Reply #10 on:** May 25, 2008, 05:36:44 PM »

Garrett · « **Reply #11 on:** May 25, 2008, 06:57:32 PM »

I can't see the need for explosions in a game with no explosives aside from a paint grenade which ultimately isn't an explosive.

i_am_a_pirate · « **Reply #12 on:** May 26, 2008, 02:16:25 AM »

Explosive barrels

But you get killed by paint, don't you? not explosions

Of course we could have the player explode when you get hit...

Zorchenhimer · « **Reply #13 on:** May 26, 2008, 12:16:47 PM »

Haha, instead of getting eliminated when a barrel explodes, you die. And "YOU ARE DEAD!" is printed center screen and you don't respawn.

[/blatant sarcasm]

webhead · « **Reply #14 on:** May 26, 2008, 02:50:55 PM »

just keep in mind that the more advanced animations/graphics/effects are put in the game, the more graphics options there'll have to be (to turn them off if necessary) ... cuz we don't want to alienate those with the less-powerful computers that want to play (and currently can).
why? because it's DP - it was taken from the q2 engine - and that's how it's meant to be. i know this is an extreme example, but ... we don't want to end up putting so much stuff into it that it basically turns into "crysis paintball"

jitspoe · « **Reply #15 on:** May 26, 2008, 09:51:22 PM »

So... is this a request for better splat particles? Paintballs don't really do that much damage to objects they hit. I think it would be a bit unrealistic to have shards of wood flying off when you shot a crate. Same with jumping on them.

webhead · « **Reply #16 on:** May 26, 2008, 09:59:21 PM »

lol i was thinking that too

atmays · « **Reply #17 on:** May 27, 2008, 11:36:27 PM »

new engine?

Garrett · « **Reply #18 on:** May 28, 2008, 08:40:04 AM »

Quote from: atmays on May 27, 2008, 11:36:27 PM

new engine?

If you are suggesting this for DP, as said in the past, its not worth the time and would not allow some of the people not to play the game because of the steeper system requirements.

i_am_a_pirate · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2008, 11:18:41 AM »

wth? was my post deleted?! That took me forever to write..

Anyway, you could have a 'weak' type of crate maybe with one of the surfaces able to break off. Just a thought. Also, you could have the paintballs splat out instead of having the paintballs splatting in 2d.